so i thought my purpose was to serve jehovah and get baptised.
where do i go now to get baptised?
is baptism even a requirement for serving god or was that just for the disciples and people of that time.
Welcome!
As others have wisely said already, RESEARCH, and educate yourself about the JW organisation...and the bible itself.
As you do, you will learn to let go of the FOG, which stands for FEAR, OBLIGATION, GUILT.
All aspects of being raised in a high control group result in us having such FOG deeply ingrained. This is toxic, and needs to be seen for what it is.
So they can all bow before him and give him "praise all day and night" as the bible says.
Amazing how the "almighty" needs constant validation and reassurance of his "amazingness"....
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54643.
presenting the order of parental gloryon the eve of international children’s day, vladimir putin presented the order of parental glory to parents of large families.
the recipients included families from astrakhan and yaroslavl regions, the republics of karelia, buryatia, north ossetia-alania, perm and primorye territories, and khanty-mansi autonomous area – yugra.the order of parental glory was established by a presidential executive order signed in may 2008 and is awarded to parents (or adoptive parents) raising 7 or more children and ensuring due care for their health, education, and physical, spiritual and moral development.
Someone send this to Putin!
Im sure he will take the award away....
alright.... so in another thread, most of us have been counseled for some lame stuff, and the responses range from funny to shocking.. now, let's focus on you giving counsel to others.
come on, don't be shy!.
i'll begin:.
I'm ashamed to say that I was a very self-righteous opinionated judgemental young prick of a brother.... as I followed the expectations placed on me by the society of an appointed brother in bethel....
To all whom I "counselled", I say sorry.
the nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.
think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.
now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
This story also fails because it is based on the premise that human sexuality is more enjoyable than being a divine being in the heavens !
As amazing as sex might be, surely life as a mighty spirit being would supersede or override that?
greetings, friends:.
the following is one of those now-i've-heard-everything field experiences.. this morning i went to a client's home to collect on work done.
while we were talking, the phone rang, she picked up, and told me she didn't recognize the caller id.
It sounds like a clever method of reaching those in gated communities who can't be called on in the door to door work...
Then if anyone complains about witnesses, the publishers can say they invited someone...not cold called on their door...
sneaky bastards...
having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.
like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.
you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.
Thank you for reviving this awesome thread!
For all new ones who missed it the first time, -Enjoy!
many of us here have discovered and appreciate theramintrees videos on youtube.. if you have not yet explored the excellent presentations, please do yourself a favour and check out the catalogue.. here is a recent one...... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqfe3hhzxg4.
Many of us here have discovered and appreciate TheraminTrees videos on YouTube.
If you have not yet explored the excellent presentations, please do yourself a favour and check out the catalogue.
Here is a recent one.....
mrs phizzy voted for the first time today !
we have been out for nearly a decade now, but this is the first time mrs phizzy has been persuaded to vote.. she was always afraid that jw's would see her, and then df her for it, i explained (again, we have been over this before) that they would not do so, and my son had a word in her ear too, which did the trick.. she came out of the polling station and said to me "i voted for someone called teresa may, who is she ?".
trying to wind me up, but i knew the wicked witch of westminster was not on our ballot sheet.
Well done mrs Phizzy!
i voted this morning for the first time.
at 32yo i wondered in a church of england parish hall with no idea what i was doing.
everyone else knew how to do it.
Great thread.
Yes, I voted in our last elections, and bluffed my way through the process... it was a great feeling to do something that we were always told was wrong.
We tried playing the pokies too once...but that was just boring and a waste of money...
But, NO guilt!
