Posts by stuckinarut2

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The forgotten victims in Job

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

after todays watchtower, i realised that there was a detail which i'd never noticed before.

sometimes job's children are mentioned, but how many have noticed that job's servants were also killed.

they didn't even have a quantity assigned to them - just treated like property.

stuckinarut2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgZqnsytJI

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The forgotten victims in Job

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

after todays watchtower, i realised that there was a detail which i'd never noticed before.

sometimes job's children are mentioned, but how many have noticed that job's servants were also killed.

they didn't even have a quantity assigned to them - just treated like property.

The whole fictional account is flawed in many ways, including the outright promotion of the acquisition of wealth and property as being good!
In fact, the account goes to great lengths to say that GOD ALMIGHTY blesses with MATERIAL wealth.

So how does that translate to Witnesses in JW org today? The GB keep saying that it is NOT the personal aquisition of status or wealth that proves one's value in God's eyes?

And as you point out, the ACTUAL people are not important, it is just their "value" as a commodity that is highlighted (applies to both the children and the slaves etc)

BUT, this "factual biblical account" is supposed to prove that "Jehovah is Loving??"

Why did Jehovah even need to place a wager or have this bet with Satan anyway??

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Thoughts from the International Summer Convention in Romania

by cookiemaster in

we just had a huge international convention here in romania.

at least huge by local standards.

22,000 in attendance in one location and around 44,000 throughout the country.

stuckinarut2

Ah yes!

"It is "faith-strengthening" to see the UNITY in teachings worldwide"

Which actually means:

"Nothing says CULT more, then when exactly the same propaganda material is dispensed with no variation all around the world"

Thanks for your summary. I can add this to my knowledge, so if asked by still-ins, I will know the content of the program and can bluff a response.

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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

by Isambard Crater in

that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

stuckinarut2

What steve2 said👍

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Have you noticed this trend on social media amongst witnesses...?

by stuckinarut2 in

it seems that every 2nd witness often posts pictures of themselves at conventions, or out in 'service'.

but i have noticed that they never seem to post anything about the actual "spiritual content" of their activity!

instead, it is pictures of them with their witness "friends", along with some contrite comment like #bestlifeever (arrghhh).

stuckinarut2

It seems that every 2nd witness often posts pictures of themselves at conventions, or out in 'service'. (especially the "young-ones")

But I have noticed that they never seem to post anything about the actual "spiritual content" of their activity!

Instead, it is pictures of them with their witness "friends", along with some contrite comment like #bestlifeever (arrghhh)

Why don't they post content about the teachings or talk material?

Is it that they just don't care about that, and that their real focus or value is the relationships?

Or is it that they don't want to come across as being "over-righteous" or "super-spiritual"?

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Just Offended A JW Cart Witness Without Even Trying

by pale.emperor in

on my way into town from my office.

two carts set up a few feet from each other.

one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!

stuckinarut2

And that kind of abusive ignorant behaviour just proves it is a cult...and we all escaped it thankfully....

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I wish I had not gone to the meeting last night

by stillin in

the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.

the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.

the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.

stuckinarut2

It genuinely boggles my mind to think that witnesses simply eat this crap up!

HOW do they not see the blatant manipulation in those propaganda videos??

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I went informal witnessing today

by Chook in

i go to the local mcdonald's for a strong latte and raisin toast and i perched my feathers on a corner seat noticing a older european guy in a suit sitting by himself, so i move next to him and said it was warmer this chair.

i say you on business matters mate, he says ya but seemed only interested in his news paper.

i knew he was jw because jw assembly hall is not in a business district.

stuckinarut2

Their standard reply nowadays is "go to JW.org" for more information.

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If the GB members over the years all had children, would the DF / Shunning policy be softer?

by stuckinarut2 in

just a question i was pondering:.

most of the gb over the years, from the time of rutherford right through to today, have not had children i think?

(correct me please if i am wrong).

stuckinarut2

Great replies.

Yes, maybe I was being too generous or hopeful in my outlook.

As many have said, their track record does show that they will never be anything except hard hearted

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If the GB members over the years all had children, would the DF / Shunning policy be softer?

by stuckinarut2 in

just a question i was pondering:.

most of the gb over the years, from the time of rutherford right through to today, have not had children i think?

(correct me please if i am wrong).

stuckinarut2

Just a question I was pondering:

Most of the GB over the years, from the time of Rutherford right through to today, have not had children I think? (Correct me please if I am wrong)

The bond of love a parent has for their child is one of the strongest ever.

So would the hard-line stance of shunning (particularly one's own children) of those who leave the society, be softer if they all had children?

Thoughts?