warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.
i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.
i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.
Great points SummerAngel!
Yes, the use of the word "apostate" does play into the society's control. The actual dictionary definition is simply "one who has left their former faith". By that rule, even Jesus was an Apostate (or Judaism)
As for being present with the hospital and medical team, we are indeed doing that. We are the ones who have visited, and spoken with all the medical team.
The sister (who lives approx. 2000 kms away has not of course been able to visit)
Will keep you all updated!
warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.
i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.
i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.
Yes, as Unstuck's other half, I can add that it simply proves that we made the right decision in life to "become Apostates" if this kind of behaviour is the sort that is promoted by the society!
I mean, yes, we are "apostate" as you all know here on the forum. But it needs to be stated that NEVER at ANYTIME has ANY elder actually ever spoken with us, nor popped in to see us to verify the rumour started by one person who saw my computer years ago.
NOT ONE PERSON has ever even checked with Unstuck to see where she stands, or what her views are! All that witnesses know for sure is that we don't attend.
So, this proves the old expression "WHY LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF GOSSIP?"
ok, this is from 2006. but someone on reddit mentioned it and posted a link.
my word, the micro-management and unnecessary lengths they go to to control:.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b2fynzabupqfsnvqtxjmyxjvmgm/view.
I can recall and MS and Elders meeting with the CO (around 2011 or so?) where the CO said that "viewing pornography - even if it was of just two women, would call qualifications into question"
I thought quietly at the time, "why the specific reference to 2 women?"
now they are really scraping the barrel.
check out this discussion on exjw reddit .... https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6v85y9/pioneer_school_today/?st=j6nwx7ny&sh=136a59c9.
It certainly sounds in line with the ramped up and extreme rhetoric the society has been promoting of late.
Last year's convention clearly showed the "proper behaviour" witnesses should adopt toward DF or DA ones: Ignore their phone calls....
this is a fascinating study of how our modern apples evolved.
the study involved examining the genomes of the array of apple varieties, including related types of fruit.. from it we can learn that the fruit types we know today, may not have existed in ancient times.
from its origins in what we now call kazakhstan, it seems the original fruit changed as trees grew in many places along the great ancient network of trade routes we call the silk road, and as different varieties evolved in various ways.. a readable version of the story can be found in popular archaeology:.
I thought this was the evolutionary history of the apple?
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/01/24/visual-history-mac/#.tnw_jC14OILv
some of our newer forum members may not have had the chance to see the great videos from theramintrees.
enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewehb4qm1hg.
Some of our newer forum members may not have had the chance to see the great videos from TheraminTrees
Enjoy
i hope this is the right place to put this.
so, i joined this site a while ago because i was looking for conversation and to help people.
i think at the time i actually needed to be around the kinds of people that i had grown up with as well.
Welcome.
This is a safe place full of supportive people who understand what we have all been through.
Stay, participate and enjoy.
Best wishes to you!
it seems that every 2nd witness often posts pictures of themselves at conventions, or out in 'service'.
but i have noticed that they never seem to post anything about the actual "spiritual content" of their activity!
instead, it is pictures of them with their witness "friends", along with some contrite comment like #bestlifeever (arrghhh).
Yes, my only social media is Instagram.
That seems to be the main Witness platform too...
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forced to choose between beliefs and family.
“no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds objectionable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.” that statement appeared in an article entitled “is it wrong to change your religion?” in the july 2009 awake magazine, published and distributed widely by jehovah’s witnesses.. nearly everyone reading that statement would consider it to be mere common sense.
Great thread.
Thank you
Love your work mate!!
Awesome.
