And yes Stan! You are spot-on!
The 12,000 virgins from "tribes of isreal" is figurative, but the number 144000 is to be taken literally?
The very notion of what is "literal" and what is "symbolic" or "figurative" is amusing....
thursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.
2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
And yes Stan! You are spot-on!
The 12,000 virgins from "tribes of isreal" is figurative, but the number 144000 is to be taken literally?
The very notion of what is "literal" and what is "symbolic" or "figurative" is amusing....
thursday, august 31. jehovah knows those who belong to him.—2 tim.
2:19.. in recent years, we have seen an increase in the number of those partaking at the memorial of christ’s death.
that trend contrasts with the decrease in the number of partakers that we saw for many decades.
It really is laughable....
The whole concept of people being chosen to go to heaven to rule over those on earth...based on words in an iron-age book written by a few animal herders who heard voices in their heads...(The same sort of voices that told them to sacrifice their children, or build a floating zoo, or talk to snakes....)
Just apply a tint bit of logical thinking to the very concept, and it falls apart...
not a peep about all victims, not even a prayer for them.
only pray for jws.
and who or what is jehovah's loving arm of support?
The selfishness is deplorable!
For an organisation that claims to want to save as many as possible, and is characterised by love, that article is appalling.
it's true.
i'm a bit worried about god.. he seems to be doing some quite silly and frankly, insane things to prove he exists.. some bloke found words from the quran in a tomato.. jesus keeps appearing in toast and cats bums.. i'm worried about god.
i think he's gone a bit didlow..
screen capture from the watchtower society of australia's article's of association:.
i wonder how item (e) is defined and whether they actually provide any money for charitable poverty relief?
if so, i would love to see the evidence.
Easy.
Charitable work for the relief of poverty is:
Teaching them about Gods kingdom, which will turn the earth into a paradise, which will end poverty.
Done.
(I feel ill having justified that)
it's only a matter of time of course..... jw rumor mills will start up soon, with stories of how jws were "first on the scene" as the flood waters receded..... how the red cross and/or us national guard and/or doctors without borders and/or [you name it] were marveling at just how "organized" the jws are..... how zealous jws were pulling their trolleys thru ankle-deep water to "offer comfort" to victims, by giving them - sandwiches?
bottled water?
to offer them comfort by giving them 16 page "magazines" to read in their spare time..... so as the stories start to come in, you can "deposit" those little nuggets of bs here.. once collected, we'll wrap them in a pretty bow and flush them away where other instances of pure manure go..
Sorry, I know it is a side point, but your thread title reminded me of an ignorant and massive stuff-up that an Australian prime minister made when it comes to the use of the word "repository" a few years back!
Enjoy!
you received a spirit of adoption as sons, by which spirit we cry out: “abba, father!”—rom.
those who have received this special invitation from god do not need another witness from any other source.
they do not need someone else to verify what has happened to them.
Good observations.
And yet, the society goes to great lengths to create a questioning attitude amongst all witnesses at memorial time in order to dissuade more from partaking.
As we know, they have used derogatory comments such as "some choose to partake due to emotional instability " or comments like that!
For the GB, it is an exclusive club, that they alone want to be the doorkeepers of. Just like a nightclub - if you do not have the stamp on your hand from the door bouncer, you are NOT getting in!
it's only a matter of time of course..... jw rumor mills will start up soon, with stories of how jws were "first on the scene" as the flood waters receded..... how the red cross and/or us national guard and/or doctors without borders and/or [you name it] were marveling at just how "organized" the jws are..... how zealous jws were pulling their trolleys thru ankle-deep water to "offer comfort" to victims, by giving them - sandwiches?
bottled water?
to offer them comfort by giving them 16 page "magazines" to read in their spare time..... so as the stories start to come in, you can "deposit" those little nuggets of bs here.. once collected, we'll wrap them in a pretty bow and flush them away where other instances of pure manure go..
I'm sure that the society will recite "upbuilding experinces" after this PR opportunity (natural disaster) passes.
They will be "factual accounts" such as:
"A city official was overheard saying that 'only you people give evidence of being Gods true people'" But of course no name will be provided to prove this.
Or
We will hear reports of "neighbors saw the unity of Gods people and accepted a bible study, which resulted in 6 members of the family coming into the Truth!"
Or, after hearing about the many deaths in the community, the society will boast about how the disaster resulted in a "fine shout of praise toJehovah!"
the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.
the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.
note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.
"Dear brothers and sisters, when unflattering reports are made about the society, be quick to place your fingers in your ears and scream out loudly LaLaLa!"
i walked to the station yesterday to meet a friend, and on the way, in what must be the quietest street in the entire suburb, were two j.witnesses and their little cart, all set with a literature display.
i wondered what point there may have been to choose that location.
i felt like grabbing one of their bibles and reading matthew 5:15 to them:.
In our part of the world, (a smaller town on the fringe of the suburbs), they set up a cart on a lonely bicycle and walking track.
Only a very small number of people pass by - usually people riding bikes, or going for a run.
They seriously look stupid. No one talks to them. People deliberately walk AROUND them!
But with the 2 or 3 witnesses sitting there, they can add up to 6 hours to the "worldwide work"