Nice comments vidiot and lisarose!
Yes, the things we respectfully point out have a logical and factual basis, so any sane person can see it. However, good witness drones choose to remain blind.
Reminds me of a scripture "their minds are blinded..."
so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
Nice comments vidiot and lisarose!
Yes, the things we respectfully point out have a logical and factual basis, so any sane person can see it. However, good witness drones choose to remain blind.
Reminds me of a scripture "their minds are blinded..."
there is no doubt (in my mind at least from my own personal experience) that in day to day matters most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it).
however i would like to put the case that when it comes to their ministry and theological/scientific discussion of any type, they fail to apply even the most basic of bible principles that they claim to espouse - the golden rule!
here is what occurred to me.... some things jw's would like men to do to them:.
Sadly, when someone thinks that they represent God Almighty, they don't need to show the same respect to any other opinion or thought.
i have heard of this happening before, but how often?
its pretty rare it seems.
i have often wondered if the elders would go this route with me since they knew i was actively sinning, but as far as i know, no jc was ever formed.
We have never attended any "invitations" to meetings with elders, yet our name and character has been actively maligned in our whole district.
Witnesses shun us in the extreme.
It makes me wonder whether the local elders did announce something about us?
Maybe they did say so in order to make others shun us?
no doubt this has been discussed before, but if the 1975 event had never happened where would watchtower be now.
comments please..
Many of us born-ins in the 30-45 age bracket wouldn't be here either!
Our parents were attracted into the society around the time we were born, and our lives were instantly set in witness-motion
so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
SPOT ON Vidiot!
once i left ,i was done.
in over 10 years i didn't return except for my mother's funeral.
did you ever re enter the kh after you left?.
"you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"
I stepped on a nail once, I don't need to step on one again to know how dangerous and painful it is!
i think this screen shot says it all... need i say more?.
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OH WOW!
So the "Rewards program" means people can GIVE those TO the society? NOT the society giving reward incentives to witnesses!
Oh, I have seen everything now!
Imagine if a department store had that sort of "rewards program"?! hahahaha "Now sir, you have spent money here with us to purchase things, now would you like to just give us more for the fun of it?"
canada, province of quebec : class action lawsuit filed against the watchtower about the pedophilia issue.
it is now official.
see the articles in french of today:.
Great!
Hope this generates more media attention worldwide, and helps still-in witnesses to look behind the curtain!
if watchtower has no reason to df ones.
they have just become inactive.
do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?
There was a directive to all elders at a recent CO visit.
It directed that there will NO LONGER be any efforts to visit the DF DA or Inactive in the territory. ( such as through the annual visit that used to be the case)
They said that "If these ones wish to establish contact, they could approach witnesses doing cart work and make their wishes known"
So the GB have put the onus on the DF DA or inactive person to put in efforts, rather than the society chasing us up.
i was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.
the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.
over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..
Spot on @wake me up! Spot on indeed