Posts by stuckinarut2

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Deadly Discipline

https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/loving-memory-laura-ann-gracey-father-remembers/.

the death toll from watchtower increases with the latest suicide report of laura ann gracey.

here, her father recounts the events leading up to his daughter's taking of her own life - undoubtedly starting with her indoctrination from birth into this stifling, doomsday cult.. i see many similarities to myself as laura.

stuckinarut2

Beautiful thread, and touching comments WakeMe! Thanks for sharing.

Yes, that link is indeed so disturbing on so many levels....I'm left speechless to be honest. There should be an investigation into the events that led up to that poor woman feeling that there was no option other than overdosing.... why was she left so vulnerable that she felt that the only option was such a permanent step....

Is the organisation responsible in some way? Are those elders bloodguilty?

Your personal comments also resonate. With your new awareness, your little one will be privileged to be raised with a balanced and healthy view of life!

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Interesting conversation with JW friend

by Jules Saturn in

i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

stuckinarut2

Well done.

The best thing to get a "still in" thinking is to simply raise a biblical topic.... then Leave the subject open and let them ponder the answer....

For example.: "was Jehovah happy with Lot? What about when he had sex with his two daughters?" That seems very wrong....

Then leave the subject and move on...

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"We don't venerate idols or images!"

by stuckinarut2 in

how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

stuckinarut2

Great comments !

Ray, you are spot on, and Venus, that is exactly right! Keeping a photo of someone is a sign of respect..

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Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal

by pale.emperor in

i thought this during my wake up.

if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.

some would even say a con.

stuckinarut2

Great thoughts PE!

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"Circumcision is a sign to set you apart from the people of the nations"

by stuckinarut2 in

we know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".

but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.

i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??

stuckinarut2

We know that the Hebrew Scriptures, or Old Testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the Jews apart from the "people of the nations"

But apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?

I mean, HOW did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??

Did people meet each other while walking in the desert , drops their pants, or lift their robes just to show each other their penis? "Now you can see from which nation I have come"

So stupid....

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"We don't venerate idols or images!"

by stuckinarut2 in

how often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of false religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to jehovah!".

members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue.

they do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.. witnesses give extreme focus on the name "jehovah" .

stuckinarut2

How often did we as witnesses say something like this : "unlike members of False religion, who venerate or worship through statues or idols, we give our focus to Jehovah!"

But really, is it any different?

Members of religious groups focus their religious adoration via an image or statue. They do this in order to provide some sort of focus to their need to worship.

Witnesses give extreme focus on the name "Jehovah" . They make this the focus of worship, attention and adoration.

But the name Jehovah is simply an amalgam of letters formed by a Middle Ages monk. The exact pronunciation of YHWH is not known. The name is not even accurate.

And yet witnesses say that isn't important - the main thing is it gives focus on god.

So, what is the difference?

None that I can see

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We missed you at the meetings...

by punkofnice in

how many times have you heard that trope?.

i found it more irritating than a dose of farmers on the bum.

i've even said it when i was a brainwashed jobo drone.

stuckinarut2

Yes!!

Great thread.

When they have said "We miss you, I always reply "Thankyou! Lets grab a coffee now if you like?"

They never take me up on that!

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KH dedication

by stan livedeath in

correct me if i'm wrong--.

when a new-build or existing property is acquired for use as a kingdom hall----is it still the custom to have a sort of "dedication to jehovah" type of service ?.

if it is--what happens when the property is sold ?

stuckinarut2

haha! Great thread Stan.

I know of a hall that was sold to a Budhist group. In the foyer where the WT logo once was, is now a giant Budha statue...

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Instructions For Merging Congregations

by wifibandit in

instructions for merging congregations s-67-e 9/17.

stuckinarut2

Oh how surprising!

"If the congregation has money in its operating account, these funds WILL NOT be returned to the congregation"

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Altered Scriptures?

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that the jobos recently had a broadcast where 2 scriptures have been changed.. luke 22.26you, though, are not to be that way.

but let the one who is the greatest among you become as the youngest, and the one taking the lead as the one ministering.. 1 tim 3:1this statement is trustworthy: if a man is reaching out to be an overseer,+ he is desirous of a fine work.

i don't have the tech to locate the broadcast right now.

stuckinarut2

Nice new avatar Punky!!