this was inspired by a recent post by nike and the comments that followed re gender balance in the org.
if jw's accept the concept that the gb continue to push - that people only become believers if they are "rightly disposed" and are thereby "drawn by god.".
then given the huge gender imbalance and also the huge differences in percentages of jw in some lands vss others only two things can possible follow from that:.
Yes, great thread!
I can remember saying to my father once that Jehovah may not be impartial, as he clearly is drawing more people from certain sections of the world, but almost ignoring whole swathes of the population!
He just couldn't see what I was saying!
i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.
several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.
one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.
Ah yes ttdtt, THAT CO visit with elders and servants! Wasn't that the outline that also went into detail and discussed that "pornography showing 2 women is bad, but not in the same league as other forms of pornography"
I remember thinking how odd it was that they were now stipulating types of porn!
here is an otherwise honest and intelligent fellow (former mormon) who 'woke up' and realized all his previous efforts at providing apologist material needs to be refuted--by himself!the parallel to jw thinking and our old life vs new life approach to debunking former sincerely held beliefs finds quite an amusing mirror, imho.check it out.
i think you'll see your time repaid handsomely.http://mormondiscussions.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45012.
Thanks Terry.
Yes, for some time, I have been interested in the comparisons and similarities that we as ex Jws and ex Mormons face.
these special pioneers took the lead in the phonograph work when the society voluntarily withdrew from commercial use of the radio.. to learn of the effectiveness of this new program let's read from the 1940 yearbook, which presents the report for the 1939 service year:.
the special pioneer work was announced at the columbus convention in september, 1937, and that work has continued now for two years with good results.
when the special pioneer work began the company publishers were not convinced of the value of making back-calls and the regular daily use of the phonograph.. about 200 specially chosen pioneers throughout the country took upon themselves the responsibility of really putting to use the phonograph.
I want one of the alive singing carts!
Then we can teach it to sing ;
"I have wheels, I have racks,
full of propaganda tracts,
I take the culty message everywhere....(except when it's rainy or hot, or mildly inconvenient)
That sounds so morbid!
HOW is that meant to be a happy song of praise?
And watching the screen for the lyrics? What the hell has this religion become?
jehovah's witnesses insist that jephthah did not sacrifice his daughter to jehovah.
this is important to them because, rarther than jephthah just being a random bad person, jehovah was very much in on the deal.
after all, he made the promise to jehovah that he would "offer up as a burnt offering" on his return the first thing to come out of his house if jehovah would give the ammonites into his hands in battle, and since they were this makes jehovah complicit.. the isrealites had been getting a good thrashing of late, and the gilead elders (oh boy) had come out to ask jephthah, the rejected son of a prostitute (wouldn't you know it) and renown soldier, if he would lead the isrealites into battle for them.. this is when jephthah makes the deal with jehobo, and it all centres on the word for "burnt offering", which is given as "olah".
Yes! Jehovah supposedly hated the surrounding nations acts of child sacrifice etc...
So, when Jeptha made that promise, Jehovah should have unequivocally stated "NO!, for that is something detestable to me!"
Funny how there is no of record of that!
today the local newspaper published my first article.
about local politics.
a new stage in our fading proces.. g..
Well done!
faithful and discreet slave parable.
matthew 24:45-47 "who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
By the very definition of the word "discreet", it simply CAN NOT apply to the group of 7 power hungry, prominence seeking, authoritarian control freaks!
i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.
several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.
one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.
ttdtt!! Love it!
Yes, you have become everything the Society said!
warning - vent ahead....... so, my father (still very much in jw but who has at least had the decency to still keep in contact with me and hubby and to show interest in why we aren't attending and respect where we are at) is in intensive care at a local hospital and is intubated and sedated with some serious health issues.
i'm next of kin so i get all the phone calls from the hospital.. so, the rest of the "family" has cut me off because we are inactive and because the ever-active jw gossip grapevine has rumoured with a sibilant slithy hissy voice: "apossstassssy" is the cause of our inactivity.. whatever.. but now i've had to contact said "family" with the news about my father and what is going on....... so, dad's sisters answer my calls and manage to act and conduct themselves with a degree of decorum.. my sister on the other hand - well, she doesn't deign to answer my calls and texts for most of the day.
i push the issue tonight and insist on speaking to her when my brother-in-law answers the call.
And, the objections unstuck's sister made were entirely innacurate too!
She has grossly got the timing of matters wrong, and accused her father of being in a drugged stupor. All of which is just not correct!
