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  "New Kingdom Halls Being Built Around the World.........."

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that's what a very elderly jw sister said to me this afternoon, in response to all the sell-offs.

  i didn't contradict her - she's far too close to the end, but if it had been a younger jw i'd have suggested this:.

  "isn't it a pity that the society doesn't have a section on its web site where it could post photographs of all the new kingdom halls that are getting built every week/month?

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  Oh dear...the level of cognitive dissonance is appalling!
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  I'm Going to Regular Meetups at LDS Church!

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yeah, i know ... who would want to step foot anywhere near a new-age religious church after being brought up a jw, right?.

  i know some will already be judging me, but hold-on - it maybe even worse than you imagine!.

  the group i meet-up with ... don't go inside, we never pray, we, erm, we just hang out in the car-park.. you're thinking "wtf?

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  Why dont churches want people playing pokemon go inside?

  Because they dont want people chasing after make-believe beings!.....
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  Study Watchtower confirms shunning spiritually weak. How nice!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it really hurt to hear brothers and sisters commenting about this at the meeting yesterday.. "as in solomon’s case, one of the greatest threats to spirituality is friendship with those who do not understand or respect jehovah’s standards.

  some may be associated with the congregation but may be spiritually weak.

  others could be relatives, neighbors, coworkers, or schoolmates who are not worshippers of jehovah.

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  Yes!

  That study article last weekend has to be one of the most direct and disgusting forms of cult manipulation ever!

  I am sure she will post a separate thread on it soon, but my wife and I had her father directly say that he "has to give careful and prayerful thought to cut association with us" based on coming home from that article!

  I hope he does! After all, he is just a leach on our time and money anyway....
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  HYMNS you will never hear at the Kingdom Hall

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you have examples of hymns you will never hear in kingdom halls in any country.. here are a few of my favorites:.

  https://youtu.be/cjivdc-_njs.

  https://youtu.be/7gfvl0ef-be .

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  Well, when they have amazing songs like those on JWBroadcasting instead....

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AejyTm7yyN4
  
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  wt and charitable works.

  by zeb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife (uber) mentioned today an elderly man who comes to the kh and he suffers from a sever stomach complaint which needs surgery and that there is a 'waiting list' at the local hospital.. so i says, "why dont the elders put the $$ together to get his op done privately.

  " (ie out of the govt system and 'waiting lists').

  her answer was telling.

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  Great thread Zeb!

  Many years back, there was a young teenager in the cong with a rare form of cancer. His family was doing it tough, and so I wanted to arrange a collection to help the family out towards all the expenses.

  I asked why we couldnt make it an official Congregation activity to help them out.
  

  What was the Elders response? I was also told "this is not what we do".

  So I took up a private collection amongst any who felt inclined to help out. I was told "not to do it while at the KHall!"

  Things like this make me so angry when the Society has "charitable tax-free status" in most countries, and yet they wouldnt know the meaning of the word "charity"!
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  I'm considering putting off my leaving

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to share with you the thoughts that i've had lately.. my plan was to get a job, become independent and then leaving the org throughout this year 2018. i'm going to achieve the first step in a matter of weeks, the second one soon afterwards but maybe i will wait a little longer for the last one.. one year ago a friend of mine was reinstated.

  we weren't very close friends back then, although we got along well.

  but, since no many jws in my town want to hang out with him (because of his being a former disfellowshipped), we started to talk and go out more often and in a matter of half a year we've become very close friends, like brothers.

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  It is always your choice. Only you know your situation and circumstances.

  But, I will say this: The longer you are IN, the harder it can be to extricate yourself out.

  Also, dont think for a moment that those "edgy witnesses" who you hang out with and do fun activities together, will not take a sudden guilt-induced turn one day and rat you all out!. It happens.

  Take care. It is more rewarding to live an honest life than a fringe life....
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  Matt 5: 29, 30 used to justify shunning

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a family relative use this scripture found here to justify shunning.

  the scripture reads as followed.

  if, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you.+for it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into ge·henʹna.

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  Further to everyone's great comments above, it is clear by the context that the JWs are misapplying that scripture.

  It says nothing about shunning family members.

  Any group that interferes with family relationships and causes division is a cult. Pure and simple.
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  latest jw community podcast has THE best interview

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no really, its golden stuff.

  i just listened to it and it contains an amazing interview with an australian activist who i only vaguely have heard of called steven unthank.

  he is one of the best guests i've heard on that show, competing with the governing body helper they interviewed once.

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  Yes!

  Really great podcast. He is an amazing guy!

  Much respect to Steven!
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  TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS "Handling Cases of Drug Abuse" September 1, 2018

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://jwglossary.blogspot.com/2018/09/to-all-bodies-of-elders-handling-cases.html.

  to all bodies of elders "handling cases of drug abuse".

  september 1, 2018. to all bodies of elders re: handling cases of drug abusedear brothers: as noted below, the procedure for handling the misuse of marijuana and the abuse of medi- cal, illicit, or addictive drugs has been adjusted to harmonize with the procedure for handling the misuse of tobacco.

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  What about a brother addicted to opioids!?

  I know of one who had to do months in a rehab facility for misusing those. Is judicial discipline supposed to be enacted? He escaped any punishment.
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  Here's another subtle reverse-witnessing topic:

  by neat blue dog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the next time a jw brings up a natural disaster or severe weather event as proof of the last days, and they preface it by reciting a fact they heard on the news like, (just for the sake of example) 'it's the worst earthquake in 70 years' or 'the worst plague in 200' years', (you get the picture), then simply reply: "oh, so that means that ____ years ago there was one that was worse, right?".

  i did this twice.

  both times got the same response:.

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  stuckinarut2

  We are living in the best time of human history in many ways.

  Medical improvements abound. Would we prefer to live in the Middle Ages when people died at 25 from a head cold??