'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.
shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.
that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.
Steve2 said it well: "To succeed as a JW, you virtually have to 'play the game' if you wish to be shown mercy because otherwise most elders would not be able to 'read' you actually are contrite."
The society is based on Outward appearances in all matters!
popping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
Welcome!
yes, it is great to be alive. Nice comment!
no matter what we go through, there is always something to be happy about and greatful for each day.
and it felt wonderful!!.
i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.
the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.
Im tempted to ask trolley attenders this:
"With the worlds attention on the USA elections, does your religion have a preference as to who gets in?"
Of course they will probably reply that they are "neutral in all world political affairs" right ?
Then I would steer the conversation towards whether they should be involved with the United Nations?
You see where I'm going here?
Then steer it toward whether flags are appropriate for Christians to display.
You all see where I'm going here too don't you?
It could make for an interesting conversation!
it's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.
we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.
so why slay the sheep or beast?????
For that matter, why were all the animals killed in nations that the Israelites defeated?
Why slay man, woman, child, and all beasts?
i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.
anyone have any idea?
if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.
The illustration has often been used by witnesses and the society of warning a person in a burning house to "get out"
Would we warn that person of the danger and his impending death by sitting under a tree in a nice park with a small sign?
Or....?
i would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.
anyone have any idea?
if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.
If the time is so URGENT, and lives are at stake, then why is the ministry and cart work so PASSIVE??
It is almost as if the witnesses WANT people to miss out and DIE!
in their sick and twisted bubble that they live in, the jehovahs witnesses clearly have no idea about the logistical nightmare of disposing of 7.5 billion corpses.. when i heard an elder once say that it will be a joy to clear away the wicked from the earth, he actually had a smile on his face.. can they even begin to imagine what 7.5 billion dead men, women, children & babies looks like?.
"let the eye feel no sorrow".
sick bastards..
What a "joy" it will be to gather up the bodies of those babies and little toddlers who are destroyed because their parents didn't accept witness literature!
Witnesses can be "ever joyful" and partake in the "happyfying assignment" of digging cute burial plots for those tiny "WICKED EVIL" children!
well how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
These campaigns are designed to keep witnesses busy in a "super important work"
Just like running on a treadmill......Lots of energy expended - but one gets no-where quickly!
how many of you know about this san diego mansion?
i just found out about it recently.
apparently it was built for old testament faithful men to live in upon resurrection in 1925 such as abraham, moses etc.
The most disturbing part about the whole thing is the lack of honesty and transparency by the society to the general flock!
If one looks at the Proclaimers book, Beth-Sarim is given just a brief mention only!
If they were and said "we messed up. We were wrong" it would be a gesture of humility!
study edition.
january 2017.
(can someone put up a link please?).
So, we are assuming that they will need to camp overnight?
If so, that brother should be counselled for "staying overnight with sisters to whom he is not married!"
Bring on the Judicial Committee!
