Posts by stuckinarut2

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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?

by NikL in

in the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.

as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.

does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?

stuckinarut2

The simple question needs to be asked, does God get things wrong or is the governing body getting things wrong. ???????

Because if the premise is that the governing body is directed by God, God has a terrible habit of making mistakes

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Great Tribulation and Trump

by TakeOffTheCrown in

please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

stuckinarut2

Well, if Trump and Putin are friends, then the WT idea of the king of the north vs the king of the south fizzle out!

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Election Post-Mortem

by Simon in

i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

really, wtf!.

the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

stuckinarut2

It is amazing that Billy Bush got fired for his part in those lewd comments, but Trump got PROMOTED to the HIGHEST position in the nation!

Wow! That seems logical.... (sarcasm alert)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/billy-bush-donald-trump_us_5822dbbbe4b0aac624885360

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Nov. Broadcast - Truth

by Listener in

for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast i've made a transcript on the section presented by losch on champions of truth.. be a champion of truth.

in today's world truth is being attacked and distorted.

we are being surrounded by a sea of lies and misrepresentations.... satan is the father of the lie but today there are children of the lie..... a lie is a false statement deliberately being presented as true.

stuckinarut2

Wow!

Half truths and deception?

What about the way the brothers dealt with the questions during the Australian Royal Commission??

Huh??

Hypocrites!

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the privilege of associating with fellow Christians in worship is not open to everyone?

by NikL in

was going through the book that is currently being studied at midweek meetings.. paragraph 18 of chapter 11 reads.... a second area of moral refinement involves themeasures taken to keep the congregation clean.

sad-ly, not all who accept jehovah’s standards of conductand dedicate themselves to god loyally stick withtheir decision.

some eventually have a change ofheart and willfully rebel against those standards.what is to be done about such ones?

stuckinarut2

Good pick up!

Yes, this form of official teaching gives license to witnesses acting with judgement, suspicion and a critical eye on one another! Let alone those in the community.

Such statements do indeed show the true nature of the society.

They have "added to the bible" just like the scribes and Pharisees did!

"Dead men walking", so keep your distance!

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought occurred.... witnesses face a constant mental quandary (or have to do mental gymnastics), because every person they meet, talk to, interact with etc will all die soon!

(according to the society's teachings anyway).

so this must play havoc as they try to keep an emotional distance from these ones.

stuckinarut2

A thought occurred...

Witnesses face a constant mental quandary (or have to do mental gymnastics), because every person they meet, talk to, interact with etc will all die soon! (According to the society's teachings anyway)

So this must play havoc as they try to keep an emotional distance from these ones. Effectively, people have to be "de-humanised" from a witness's viewpoint so that they don't feel bad when those ones are killed...

"Dead man walking"

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Contradiction of recent WT statements

by stuckinarut2 in

so we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the wt has said in recent years.. the one that comes to mind is: (this is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references).

"we must be willing to obey the direction from the gb no matter how strange it seems from a human standpoint".

so, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the gb fit in with feb 2017 statement:.

stuckinarut2

Can someone find the actual quotes? I can't seem to find them again.

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What if one of the GB members suddenly needed blood?

by StarTrekAngel in

there is not much to be analyzed.

in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.

he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.

stuckinarut2

Easy:

They will just takes lots of different fractions at the same time (that end up becoming whole blood again)

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Contradiction of recent WT statements

by stuckinarut2 in

so we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the wt has said in recent years.. the one that comes to mind is: (this is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references).

"we must be willing to obey the direction from the gb no matter how strange it seems from a human standpoint".

so, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the gb fit in with feb 2017 statement:.

stuckinarut2

So we all know of some (in)famous quotes that the WT has said in recent years.

The one that comes to mind is: (This is just from memory, so please feel free to add the proper links / references)

"we must be willing to obey the direction from the GB no matter how strange it seems from a human standpoint"

So, how does that "direction" / "command" to obey the GB fit in with Feb 2017 statement:

"the GB is not perfect. it has made mistakes...etc"

Surely the contradiction is obvious?? "obey us, even though we have often been wrong"

Please feel free to add the correct quotes in context.

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November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.

by Crazyguy in

thier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.

this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.

there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.

stuckinarut2

Well said DD!