Wow! What a perversion on 2thes 3!
It says NOT to treat such ones as an enemy...not to ignore them and stop associating with them.
So now that gives the green light to witnesses to form their own personal "disfellowshipping" standards!?!
jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.
now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.
recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.
Wow! What a perversion on 2thes 3!
It says NOT to treat such ones as an enemy...not to ignore them and stop associating with them.
So now that gives the green light to witnesses to form their own personal "disfellowshipping" standards!?!
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
So Nik, what are they going to do for your wife who is under stress as you say? Lift a finger to help, or just wheel out some regurgitated scriptures for her?
They don't have any business involving themselves in your lives, unless they plan on actually helping with something tangible? Monetary costs perhaps?? Thought not...
Seriously, keep your dignity, but don't enter into anything with them.
it's come out in my old congregation that, not one, but two child molesters have been hiding in my old congregation.
i knew both of them and one of them, an old man, was regularly at my house for field service meetings on a weekly basis.. in my old congregation there's an apostate who was awake long before i was.
unfortunately he cant leave because his wife and children and parents are still full on believers.
Where was the "Holy Spirit" during all those years of abuse?
just been reading this week's study article for the jws:.
imagine that an experienced guide is leading you on a tour of a wondrous and beautiful city.
the city is new to you and to those with you, so you hang on to the guide’s every word.
Imagine a deranged guide that is as lost as hell and just winging it on a daily basis...but has millions of people's lives in his hands...
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
What xanthippe said above!
Dont meet.
Simply remember what appropriate boundaries are.... and you may need to remind them of those same appropriate boundaries
never will the gb allow honest questions or doubts be raised, loyalty, loyalty,loyalty is their watchword, but if it did print qenuine readers questions, what would they be?.
Ok, I'll bite.
How about this question?
"So if Gods directs the society, was he asleep all those times they taught things that have proven to be wrong?"
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/tara-was-abused-by-the-man-she-was-taught-to-trust-most-now-she-wants-justice/news-story/50cf9dbf12e650ec22b9157e65e12db2.
fry watchtower fry!!!
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Disgusting!
Thanks for posting this Honest!
We wish Tara all the very best. May the society cop the financial penalty it deserves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhsigrwmtew.
i was invited to a congregation in ontario, canada today and as soon as the meeting opened the brother conducting the meeting said there was a very important statement coming from the borg.
this talk replaced the two last parts of "living as a christian" section.
he started reading a letter from the borg about how much they loved us.
Seriously disturbing stuff!
To try and spin this as "satanic propaganda" is downright manipulative and wrong!
As Honest said above, please send that letter to the Aust Royal Commission. They are the nicest people to talk to, and would welcome this sort of thing, as it gives an insight into the reality of how the society distorts facts.
thursday, december 8. take your stand against him, firm in the faith.—1 pet.
5:9.. to do that, we need to prepare our mind and heart, to train ourselves now to do what is right.
we do not know what our spiritual warfare may involve in the future.
Great thread and comments!
Yes, the FOG is strong indeed....(Fear Obligation Guilt)