i did not see a newbs thread to introduce myself, so my apologies if i'm in the wrong place.
i was a 3rd generation born in witness for 30 years until i was disfellowshipped back in 2007 for making a mistake.
my entire life up until that point was based on and circled around the society, and even though at first i really enjoyed my freedom (i still do), the fact is that i'm still struggling with cognitive dissonance, resentment, and loneliness.. i miss my family all the time.
Welcome.
This is a great community with supportive people.
We have all travelled similar paths, and yet we all allow ourselves to be individuals with our own ideas.
Life is not like the society presents it to be. It is not all clear-cut and easily understood. Some things take time and some things we will never fully know... and that is OK and a part of life.
We look forward to you input here!
from this week's wt study:.
all of us, whether of the anointed or of the “other sheep,” hope to see the fulfillment of god’s original purpose and the sanctification of jehovah’s name.
(john 10:16; matt.
Great comments!
Yes, how is it OK to anxiously look forward to mass genocide?
People who desire such are usually called psychopaths.....
i started a thread on this guy's comments about building kingdom halls here.. the guy also said this (again, not a word for word quote, but the gist of his comments):.
"the primary hope of salvation is the resurrection.
jehovah does not promise anyone that he will survive armageddon.
And yet sadly very few if any will actually find any problem with that statement!
It doesn't matter what they say or teach, it does not change the mindless adherence to the GB and all the society says.....
recently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.
it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.
he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.
Yes, Lack of transparency and Lack of accountability is the hallmark of the society!
They can demand answers from a publisher for any number of things, but never will they answer to their members for any decisions made with their money or assets!
hello fellow apostates!
my first post and a long time lurker here.
i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".
How about a slight variation:
You Can Live Forever with Parasites on Earth
my real name is benjamin heath, i live in southern oregon, usa, and you can always reach me on twitter @ben_heath_.
i have also rebooted my blog at benheathonline.com which is linked with my twitter.
i intend to write about experiences at work and in life, as well as whatever it is i'm reading about at the moment.. i'm a programmer by hobby, a truck driver by profession, an atheist by education and reasoning, and an ex-jw by choice.
G'day mate! From Australia!
why does the wt interpret matt.24:34 "truly i say to you this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
" as having overlapping generations ?
and not applying the same reasoning to any other scripture/s referring to a generation or this generation .?
Great thread Smiddy!
Yes, the society's cherry-picking nature what defines a "generation" is mind blowing. Those other scriptures are excellent references!
Never in the history of civilization has "generation" meant anything other than one group of people...
wolves use their "loyalty" questions to trap others - "do you believe we're living in the last days/this is god's organization/faithful slave?
" - yet resolutely avoid discussing topics which put their org in a bad light, my "loyalty" question to them would be - "do you accept literature truth over bible truth?
" they will either run or be forced to ask for examples of alleged differences.any other suggestions for "loyalty" questions?.
simple mild question to reply with:
"So, the bible says God can never get things wrong can he? He is perfect right?"
(allow for answer)
"so when the society has got many things wrong, does that mean that God was having a bad day that day and making mistakes, or could it be that the society is not guided by God?"
just thinking..... assume we had a family doctor that we had seen all our lives, perhaps he had been the doctor for your extended family too.
he is lovely man, very kind and honest hearted.. but if he had prescribed treatment or medication that was wrong, and had bad effects on you, then changed the medication to something else, then randomly changed it again etc, how would you feel?.
if you did some research into him, and found disturbing facts and things in his history that made you question his qualifications, how would you feel?
Great point redvip2000!!
i figured i'd shut the site down for a couple of hours to encourage everyone to do their xmas shopping.
the error message was a subtle hint, that's what "500 error" means ... go shopping.. whatever rumours you hear, it definitely wasn't that someone deployed a quick update before going on a 1.5 hour car ride to pick someone up and didn't think that the page they tested, to check it was all working after the update, happened to be cached.
no siree bob, not that, na hah.. anyway, you're welcome for the extra chance to, erm, shop..
we just thought that the Holy Spirit had actually acted to stop us raving apostates!
