I can recall another Panorama episode that witnesses will run away from and refuse to watch, all the while condemning it as "biased journalism "
Hmmm....selective much?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.
an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.
in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.
I can recall another Panorama episode that witnesses will run away from and refuse to watch, all the while condemning it as "biased journalism "
Hmmm....selective much?
this morning my brother and my mother (whom i mentioned in my previous topic when we had a conversation about evolution) visited a jehovah's witness, and when they returned, they returned with the awake!
magazine that they received from the witness.
the magazine is entitled, "is the bible really from god?
Great thread!
Some of the content reminded me of this great article:
i just wanted to share a quick thread to remind us all to never give up hope that our loved ones who are still mentally trapped in the org may one day wake up.. when i first starting waking up i never thought my wife would also awake.
i have always loved and respected her ability to think and reason, but i assumed that the hold of the organisation would always have its grip on her.. but slowly, and with patience, i shared some things i had learned, and the results have been amazing!.
my dear wife, who posts here under the name "unstuck" is so fully awake along with me.
Hi all,
I just wanted to share a quick thread to remind us all to never give up hope that our loved ones who are still mentally trapped in the org may one day wake up.
When I first starting waking up I never thought my wife would also awake. I have always loved and respected her ability to think and reason, but I assumed that the hold of the organisation would always have its grip on her.
But slowly, and with patience, I shared some things I had learned, and the results have been amazing!
My dear wife, who posts here under the name "unstuck" is so fully awake along with me. It is truely the most wonderful chapter of our life.
I don't mean to be insensitive to those whose situation is different or who have been hurt by family who refuse to "look behind the curtain" . Please forgive me if it comes acros like that.
I simply wish to hold a hand of encouragement out to remind us all to never give up. Show love and patience with your loved ones. Keep your dignity poise and grace, and you never know where things will go!
Much love to all!
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
I would say that this Elder is awake!
in my time as an elder i attended many elders schools etc and we were often instructed to use the carrot, not the stick.
use commendation and encouragement as opposed to pressuring or guilting the brothers into field service etc.. it seems in that approach we were not imitating jehovah.
read deuteronomy chapter 28: carrot - first 13 verses.
Great observation doubtful1799!
Yes, The god of the bible is a very bloodthirsty and petty being who tries to coax "love" out of his creatures with the threat of punishment if they dont conform....
there is alot if press here in australua on the royal commission about child abuse in the jw faith.
however that is just one type of abuse, abuse can be physical or mental, we tend to forget about the various types of mental abuse in the jw faith.
my story is not unique and apologies for grammar etc.. my father and mother emigrated to perth australia many decades ago when i was very young.
Welcome!
It is great to have yet another Aussie wake up and join our community!
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Thanks so much for checking in and updating us all mr and mrs stumpy! We really appreciate the way you have shown that there IS life after WT...a very good life if we allow it to be so!
I agree so much with all you have written. The real goal should be to become "Ex-ex Jws."
Yes, we need to acknowledge our shared background having been raised in a cult, but not let it define who we are NOW. We are all people who happened to have that background, but we can become so much more that that.
Much love to you both!
i had an interesting conversation with a fellow ex-jw yesterday.
for the sake of this post lets call her "katie".
katie is a former pioneer who suddenly stopped attending meetings and managed to be left alone by the elders.
We have family members who have been put into a turmoil trying to reconcile such direction from the society!
Some have simply cut us off...while others are trying to work out how to proceed.
I know it is messing with their heads and emotions!
But yes, the simple question is "Why or how can 7 men who don't even know you from a bar of soap have the right to cause a rift between family relatives??!"
Yes, "It is a cult"
nicely sums up most of the population.... https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe.
Brilliant!
Thanks for sharing!
ok, so i've just put myself through another months broadcast so i can see what bull they're feeding my still in relatives.
all was going fine... well, i say fine, i mean the usual cheesy videos, rehearsed reactions from jeffrey jackson (you remember him, the one who told half truths and lies at the royal commission) and propaganda from jw land.. the last feature brings up 9/11 and the paris 2015 attack at the bataclan.
just as im thinking "how are they gonna spin this in their direction" i hear these words:.
Fantastic thread, and great "rant" pale emperor!
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments, and those of others too!
The level of idiocy that witnesses hold is mind blowing!
Somtoo is the self centred attitude they show...