hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
Hi all,
So my dear Unstuck and I went back to the state library yesterday to continue our personal research into this topic.
Once again, we found NO REFERENCE anywhere to 607 BC. It simply is not a date that is mentioned by any source.
All sources quote 586/587.
So, we can now with honesty say to any witness inquirer that we did not simply take the word of "apostates", but found this pivotal information out for ourselves.
the belief system of witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.. as we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.. sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.. that can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society).
they may dig in their heels.. rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!.
as keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.. show dignity, poise and grace....and patience....
Brilliant ChaChing!
Yes, it is EXACTLY because we value truth and honesty that we left!
the watchtower announcing jehovah's kingdom:.
"1914--the generation that will not pass...wait a minute.
"who really is the messiah?
"Millions now living will all die"
so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.
'you have to go to the convention.
bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.
Hi Phoebe,
Sorry to hear that this takes such an emotional toil on you.
The first thing to really work on is recognising the FOG principle. That stands for FEAR, OBLIGATION & GUILT.
This FOG tactic is used to try and keep you captive to the society.
ONLY you can allow yourself to let go of that hold they have on you. Genuine, thorough research into the society, its origins and teachings will be the key. Go to jwfacts.com as a start.
Sincere love to you. You are NOT alone. We are all here with you.
the belief system of witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.. as we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.. sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.. that can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society).
they may dig in their heels.. rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!.
as keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.. show dignity, poise and grace....and patience....
The belief system of Witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.
As we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.
Sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.
That can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society). They may dig in their heels.
Rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!
As keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.
Show Dignity, Poise and Grace....and PATIENCE...
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/australia-does-what-u-s-wont-investigate-jehovahs-witness-cover-up/.
australia does what u.s. won’t: investigate jehovah’s witness cover-up.
by trey bundy / may 18, 2017 .
Great article!
The more exposure, the better!
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html.
former wa jehovah witness charged with alleged historic child abuse offences .
brendan foster.
Just for the record, the criminal is not named Brendan Foster. That is the JOURNALISTS name who has written this article.
(The OP sort of looks like that is the criminals name)
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html.
former wa jehovah witness charged with alleged historic child abuse offences .
brendan foster.
I grew up in that circuit! At the same time.....
It is comforting to see the Australian Royal Commission is yielding results.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
OH MY!
Wow...the shameless arrogance and conceit of the writers (and GB) is mind-blowing!
How dare they try and re-write history and skew the reality....
If the GB would just own their own mistakes instead of shifting the blame......
3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.
i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .
he then texts me saying "we need to talk".
Wow....
Now if that sort of conduct doesn't scream "CULT!" , then nothing does....
Seriously, the idea of rushing back into the arms of an abusive tyrant who will beat you or kill you if you don't obey, is not healthy....
Abusive spouses like that are prosecuted by the law,but religious deities who do that are "worshipped"
