Posts by stuckinarut2

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They Can't Admit They're Wrong ...

by compound complex in

as 1975 approached, we began to hear the preliminary murmurs of denial from the society rather than any honest admissions or apologies for their dreadful mistake.

finally, i remember sitting at the watchtower study one sunday listening to the brothers and sisters parroting the information from the study article and innocently taking all of the blame for misinterpreting what the society had said about 1975. it was the first of several occasions when i longed to jump up from my seat, run to the podium, and argue for the apparently forgotten truth.

instead, i sat there and thought how much the society was like the scribes and pharisees in jesus dayburdening the people with heavy loads that they were not willing to budge with their finger (matthew 23:4).

stuckinarut2

Great bump of this thread !

Yes, the level of arrogance the GB have in trying to re-write history is mind blowing!

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"would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?"

by stuckinarut2 in

no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.

"if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".

the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.

stuckinarut2

Prompted by the upcoming 2017 convention video that tries to deny the 1975 fiasco, I have bumped this thread.

The way the society is trying to re-write history is appalling and manipulative!

A drop of poison indeed!

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Jerusalem's destruction.....

by Unstuck in

hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.

no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!

evidence before we have our books!!.

stuckinarut2

Hi all,

So my dear Unstuck and I went back to the state library yesterday to continue our personal research into this topic.

Once again, we found NO REFERENCE anywhere to 607 BC. It simply is not a date that is mentioned by any source.

All sources quote 586/587.

So, we can now with honesty say to any witness inquirer that we did not simply take the word of "apostates", but found this pivotal information out for ourselves.

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Be careful about which card you try and remove!

by stuckinarut2 in

the belief system of witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.. as we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.. sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.. that can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society).

they may dig in their heels.. rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!.

as keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.. show dignity, poise and grace....and patience....

stuckinarut2

Brilliant ChaChing!

Yes, it is EXACTLY because we value truth and honesty that we left!

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Watchtower Magazine Covers I'd Like to See

by David_Jay in

the watchtower announcing jehovah's kingdom:.

"1914--the generation that will not pass...wait a minute.

"who really is the messiah?

stuckinarut2

"Millions now living will all die"

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last convention before global attack on witnesses

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

'you have to go to the convention.

bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

stuckinarut2

Hi Phoebe,

Sorry to hear that this takes such an emotional toil on you.

The first thing to really work on is recognising the FOG principle. That stands for FEAR, OBLIGATION & GUILT.

This FOG tactic is used to try and keep you captive to the society.

ONLY you can allow yourself to let go of that hold they have on you. Genuine, thorough research into the society, its origins and teachings will be the key. Go to jwfacts.com as a start.

Sincere love to you. You are NOT alone. We are all here with you.

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Be careful about which card you try and remove!

by stuckinarut2 in

the belief system of witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.. as we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.. sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.. that can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society).

they may dig in their heels.. rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!.

as keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.. show dignity, poise and grace....and patience....

stuckinarut2

The belief system of Witness has often been well described as a "house of cards"....seemingly stable, yet fragile at the same time.

As we try to awaken our loved ones, we may share certain topics and issues...trying to remove a card or two from the tower of cards.

Sometimes in our eagerness, we try and remove some key hot topic...or a card or two at the base of the tower.

That can be very destructive and cause loved ones to act defensive or protective of their beliefs (the society). They may dig in their heels.

Rather, success comes from carefully and casually removing smaller cards from the top of the tower....then allowing them to even remove them for themselves!

As keen as we are to just bulldoze them down, take it slowly and carefully.

Show Dignity, Poise and Grace....and PATIENCE...

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