i realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.
co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".
not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".
The prayers that sounded like they were teaching Jehovah something. As if he didn't already know whatever they were saying. "Jehovah, we learned tonight about the point of....and then we were instructed on ..... and we then learned about...."
Or
The prayers that were simply a review (or preview) of the entire meeting! I would stand there thinking "Yer yer...I JUST heard all of that, you don't need to give us (and god) another summary of the exact same stuff!"
saw this on the exjw reddit forum - very thought provoking.. "when your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.. when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.. when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult .... when family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".. deborah layton.
seductive poison: a jonestown survivor's story of life and death in the people's temple.. .
Great thread and quote!
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
Yup @stan! The ideal pioneer job hey?
I think we have all done our time as windows cleaners....
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
Damn that's messy @wake!
Glad that is behind you now.
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
Haha! @ wake. At least your 2 year old hugs you back and shows you love.... better than some postal items.
we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.
We all need to earn a living...
So just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?
just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
Great replies!
thanks for sharing!
if only there was a way to hack in and play this.
:).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmca1qdhho&feature=push-u&attr_tag=3yku113wrp-khxdt-6.
Well done!
watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
I confess that I am guilty of not waking up and leaving years earlier!
7 years ago i was this "ultra spiritual elder".
you name it, i was visible all over the region.
i was the coordinator, on the convention committee, rbc, had a talk at every convention and assembly, regular pioneer, etc.
Great reply "wake me up..."!
