Posts by stuckinarut2

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Has anybody experienced a judicial committee in a private venue?

by Chook in

i think getting them to agree to a private place would give you an edge (even if the egde of their sword closer to home).

if i'm ever hauled before their kangaroo court i will only go on one of three conditions .1 non jw venue .2 with legal representation .

3 the recording of proceedings.

stuckinarut2

When I was being harassed by the elders, I politely reminded them to "respct boundaries, or I may be forced to avail myself of the legal means at my disposal"

That was a polite way of threatening action if they maligned my name.

It didn't work. While they never publicly said anything from the platform and never took "judicial action", the elders SURE DID run around slandering my name and character to EVERY member of the local congregation as well as most within the surrounding circuits.

Im treated as a DF person even though they never took the action.

I reckon they feel quite proud of themselves really.

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My non-belief actually make me a more moral person!

by stuckinarut2 in

no doubt we have all heard the statement from witnesses and christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever.... the reality is, i reckon we are all more "moral" now that we have left!.

many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.. many of us actually do something tangible to assist people.. we don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.. and most importantly, we do not joyfully await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical god!.

thoughts?.

stuckinarut2

No doubt we have all heard the statement from Witnesses and Christians in general that those who leave the faith only do so because they want to sin, or they feel guilty or whatever...

The reality is, I reckon we are all MORE "Moral" now that we have left!

Many of us contribute to humanitarian efforts, community groups, welfare groups, etc.

Many of us actually DO SOMETHING tangible to assist people.

We don't look with critical eyes on them or their lives.

And most importantly, we DO NOT JOYFULLY await the mass genocide of men, women, children and babies by a petty, jealous, and tyrannical God!

Thoughts?

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Starting To Wake Up

by Searching in

i suppose after lurking around for a few weeks i thought i might share my own personal story, as i think it would probably be a very freeing experience for me right now.

to start off, at 23 years old i'm actually a third-generation jw, my grandparents were baptized (my grandfather is actually an elder) when my mother was only a toddler, she was raised as a witness, then of course, married a witness and thus myself and my two brothers were born-in's.

growing up my mother was always very careful about what she taught me, all the good things for sure, about how we would live in a paradise earth and i could pet all the animals that i wanted and not worry about growing old, and she'd ask me who in the bible i'd love to see and talk with - my grandparents however, were a different story and the cause of i think, most of my childhood trauma.. they really drilled home the fact that we were the only people who were going to be saved, we were the only people that were going to survive and that everyone else was going to die horribly - that i shouldn't try to make that many friends in school because they would never be "real" friends unless they were fellow jw's and they would die anyway.

stuckinarut2

WELCOME to your REAL LIFE!

It is great to have you here with us!

As you let go of the FOG (fear obligation guilt) of the society, you will find that life truly becomes enjoyable.

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Watchtower Doctrines JWs most commonly don't believe

by Diogenesister in

there was a recent thread on another site where posters maintained that many of the *most* long-standing jw's don't believe at least one official watchtower doctrine.

i've even read reports from bethelites saying they've heard bethel overseers say they don't believe some watchtower theology.

this made me think - i believe there are a few official doctrines that are common for many jw's to be either in denial about or simply not really believe ( often one and the same thing).. i'd say these are pretty high in the ranking:.

stuckinarut2

The doctrines and teachings are irrelevant to the average witness.

They simply have to do whatever the society tells them that week via the WT or mid week publications.

It is kind of like: "Dont let facts get in the way of your obediance".

Also, "Dont think too much"

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Noah's shuttle ferry. A biblical defender's excuse?

by stuckinarut2 in

we just realised that everyone has had it wrong!

the bible even got it wrong.. noah didn't build an ark that stopped in one place.

no my friends, it was actually more of a shuttle ferry that had multiple stops on its journey.

stuckinarut2

Love it Zappa!

Just hope they were not part of the mass sacrifice bon-fire Noah had as soon as they landed on dry land!

Just think, some of the very animals that Noah saved in the ark, were then killed as a burnt sacrifice to Jehovah as soon as the waters subsided!?

Just so god could enjoy the smell of smoke and burning flesh??

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I'm giving up in 2017! (More steps in my fading)

by Skepsis in

jw
friends

when i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.

i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.

had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.

stuckinarut2

Well done !

Yes, do not worry about those "friends" who you are currently missing.

The sad reality is, those people will drop you in a flash once they hear you are "spiritually weak" or worse, a "doubtful apostate".

As hard as it may seem, recognise that despite the years of shared history with them, THEY ARE NOT FRIENDS.

Real friends take effort to make. We thought as witnesses that we had dozens or hundreds or thousands of friends....WE did not. We had "conditional aquaintances"

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Just sittin' and mindin' my own business...

by Distracted in

i was sitting at a local city event enjoying watching an activity.

a friendly looking woman dressed in blue jeans and a floppy hippy looking top came and sat down besides me.

she notices i am sketching and says she likes to do this too.

stuckinarut2

How idiotic is that??

I mean, she comes by to "offer a free bible study". She is already talking with you...but then just gives a card and leaves??

She was talking with you already! If the Bible study is that important, and she had already established a report with you, JUST START with the study information there and then.

WHY leave a card inviting someone to a conversation that they are already having??

That shows the level of insincerity the org now has. IT IS NOT about a "witness or study", it is just about time - NOT people.

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Oct 2017 W/T on love.

by WHATSGOINGON in

the october 2017 wt study article (simplified).

let us consider some examples of fake love.

when satan talked to eve in the garden of eden, what he said made it seem that he wanted the best for her.

stuckinarut2

The attempted reasoning in those paragraphs simply makes my face hurt (as I smack my head in disbelief at how STUPID the writers are!)

They are condemning themselves by saying that God's spirit can be blocked by a sinner in their midst. Really? Oh come on!!

I truly can not believe we all used to adhere to such crappy reasoning!

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Noah's shuttle ferry. A biblical defender's excuse?

by stuckinarut2 in

we just realised that everyone has had it wrong!

the bible even got it wrong.. noah didn't build an ark that stopped in one place.

no my friends, it was actually more of a shuttle ferry that had multiple stops on its journey.

stuckinarut2

Nice one waton!

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Recovery From The Jehovah's Witnesses - A Guide

by pale.emperor in

hey guys.

a friend online asked me about my recovery and how i managed to recover relatively easily from watchtower indoctrination.

although i think a major part of it is acquainting oneself with information about the watchtower and it's history, a lot of it (for me at least) was an inner game.

stuckinarut2

OH WOW!!

FANTASTIC thread my friend! Really, really well written.

Thank you so much for sharing.

This is worth printing up and keeping handy...for ALL of us!