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  I wish I had not gone to the meeting last night

  by stillin in

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  the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.

  the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.

  the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.

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  It genuinely boggles my mind to think that witnesses simply eat this crap up!

  HOW do they not see the blatant manipulation in those propaganda videos??
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  I went informal witnessing today

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  i go to the local mcdonald's for a strong latte and raisin toast and i perched my feathers on a corner seat noticing a older european guy in a suit sitting by himself, so i move next to him and said it was warmer this chair.

  i say you on business matters mate, he says ya but seemed only interested in his news paper.

  i knew he was jw because jw assembly hall is not in a business district.

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  Their standard reply nowadays is "go to JW.org" for more information.
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  If the GB members over the years all had children, would the DF / Shunning policy be softer?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  just a question i was pondering:.

  most of the gb over the years, from the time of rutherford right through to today, have not had children i think?

  (correct me please if i am wrong).

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  Great replies.

  Yes, maybe I was being too generous or hopeful in my outlook.

  As many have said, their track record does show that they will never be anything except hard hearted
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  If the GB members over the years all had children, would the DF / Shunning policy be softer?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a question i was pondering:.

  most of the gb over the years, from the time of rutherford right through to today, have not had children i think?

  (correct me please if i am wrong).

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  stuckinarut2

  Just a question I was pondering:

  Most of the GB over the years, from the time of Rutherford right through to today, have not had children I think? (Correct me please if I am wrong)

  The bond of love a parent has for their child is one of the strongest ever.

  So would the hard-line stance of shunning (particularly one's own children) of those who leave the society, be softer if they all had children?

  Thoughts?
  
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  Why the vitriolic hate?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.

  why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.

  surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.

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  Excellent comments!

  Steve2 and PE, you mentioned that in your cases, the Elders have spread (or allowed to be spread) negative insinuations about your character?

  I know that the same has occurred for us. One still in shared that the Elders had said quietly to individual witnesses things like "Oh, we cant really share much with you, but its best that you don't have anything to do with bro stuckinarut2...or let your children see him and his wife. We have things under control. - just leave it to us as elders"

  I mean WTF? What sort of insinuations and innuendo does this imply??

  Character assassination is the only real tool that the society or elders can attempt to use!
  
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  Has anyone else recently been contacted by a once close JW friend or relative? Could this be a new JW tactic?

  by Latte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hmmmm...yesterday my long life friend called my landline after many years of silence.

  now the shock has subsided, i am wondering if i can forgive and forget the fact she chose not to keep in touch throughout a time in my life which was very stressful.

  sadly, i gathered that she is still involved with jehovah’s witness faith.

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  One of our fellow forum members has had a couple of random former witness "friends" contact her out of the blue recently.

  These ones have asked questions like "which convention did you attend?" And "which cong territory are you in now?"

  It is kind of odd that people come out of the woodwork and show such "interest" after years of ignoring her!
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  Why the vitriolic hate?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.

  why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.

  surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.

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  Eerily similar PE!

  Thanks for sharing!
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  A really fun and entertaining book to read! (And so very irreverent!)

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. entertainment

  i am half way through this great book, and just have to share!.

  do yourself a favour and get it!

  for those who know their bibles well, it is a very entertaining read!.

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  I am half way through this great book, and just have to share!

  Do yourself a favour and get it! For those who know their bibles well, it is a very entertaining read!

  THE STORY OF GOD. A Biblical Comedy about Love (and Hate)

  Chris Matheson
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  Why the vitriolic hate?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.

  why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.

  surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.

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  stuckinarut2

  I am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:

  WHY does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "The Truth" ?

  Surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to PROOVE that they do not have "The Truth"?

  If they are so sure they have the truth, there should be NO NEED for negative portrayals of those who have left. There should be no need to speak badly or critically of those who have chosen to fade or leave outright!

  The "Truth" should stand on its own, and should require no fueling of vitriolic hate.

  Thoughts?
  
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  Doubling up on Circuit Overseers for Apostahunts?

  by Wakanda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my area i know of four congregations dissolved in one circuit, so that leaves eight weeks a year empty for that circuit overseer's calendar.

  dissolving congregations is happening more than in my area, so i believe we can assume other c.o.s have open time.

  it appears that c.o.s are visiting with a companion c.o.

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  stuckinarut2

  I don't understand the point of that embedded video?

  Did I miss something?