just wanted to ask a question of those who were born in as i was.. how did you feel to have been "privileged to have been born into the only true faith - the truth"?.
did this make you feel confident, or proud - or perhaps arrogant?.
how did you reconcile the fact that 99% of the earth's population was not born "into the truth"?.
Just wanted to ask a question of those who were born in as I was.
How did you feel to have been "privileged to have been born into the only true faith - The Truth"?
Did this make you feel confident, or proud - or perhaps arrogant?
How did you reconcile the fact that 99% of the earth's population was not born "into the Truth"?
As a child, did you ever question these things?
well.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
Yes floridaborn!
Well said!
That line that "Sonia" uses : "I knew that if they just gave me that one bit of association - it might satisfy me" (or something like that) is pure and utter emotional blackmail. Manipulation in its finest!
WHY would anyone CHOOSE to go back to the very one's that have used abusive behaviour???
Why would a battered wife go back to the man that beats her? "Oh he still loves me"
It is NO different to the JW situation. They treat people in an abusive manner, then compound the situation by maligning their character and reputation amongst the rest of the congregation, THEN think that witnesses would WANT to go back??
Huh??
i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!
it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.
(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.
Welcome friend!
This is a great community, made up of a great variety of people who have travelled the road with you. We understand what it is like to have the very foundation and stability of one's life called into question - simply by facts and reason and logic.
Enjoy this new chapter of life! One that frees you up to genuinely use analytical and critical thinking skills.
The most important thing is to let go of the FOG (Fear Obligation Guilt) that riddles us as born-in witnesses, and stifles any growth.
Once that is let go of, we can truly grow!
on another thread, shadow asked pimojw, a newbie still serving in a congregation, "how about the overlapping generation?
do you know anyone who actually believes that?
"answer was "no i dont!
Good comments above.
I agree. Having tried to have conversations with my father, an elder for decades, and now 70.
He is a smart man in all other aspects of life, but as I shared some points of TTATT, he simply shut it down with "I am NOT going to have someone shake my faith. Your apostasy has gone too far!"
So, logic, facts, reason and proof have NOTHING to do with the mindset of the average witness.
this is such a strange article.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.
notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.
Double Speak at its finest!
And yet Witnesses simply do not see it...
well.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
And now it makes perfect sense why My Father has gone into "super-righteous arrogant judgemental prick" mode this week... (And we are not even DA or DF)
2 earthquakes in less than a month.... witnesses are going to have a field day with this... bounce back from that decline.....
Yes James Mixon, sadly witnesses WILL actually be HAPPY as these disasters unfold! They revel in seeing human misery, as they selfishly see it as proof of their own personal salvation at the big A
Schadenfreude
tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?
well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).
here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.
Well, I can tell you, that the average Australian finds it disturbing to hear an American speaker.
Nothing against our friends in the USA, but in Australia, there is a more reserved culture (as there is for many other English speaking places such as UK, New Zealand etc)
To have a "tall poppy" from the USA give a talk, (instead of a local brother) will only alienate the locals more and more....
The GB have to see that the novelty of having their big old faces up on a screen has worn off amongst witnesses.
does anybody have any word on the 2018 annual meeting?
i assume something new will be rolled out, since they are having all the congregations do special weekend streaming.. my guess is that there will be some major "new light" concerning the memorial, partaking, anointed, etc.
i would guess that they will say all baptized believers should partake.
"Special" and "Historic"
Two of the most abused words in JW terminology
so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
Nice comments vidiot and lisarose!
Yes, the things we respectfully point out have a logical and factual basis, so any sane person can see it. However, good witness drones choose to remain blind.
Reminds me of a scripture "their minds are blinded..."
