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  Paradise? Was it?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
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  paradisewas it really paradise to be in paradise?adam and eve never were held by a mother, never cuddled and sung to with a lullaby nor nursed or coddled with tenderness or any human familial embrace.

  the first humans (adam and eve) never learned to toddle surrounded by brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles and grandparents cheering them on.

  the entire experience of childhood was excised surgically like a trauma patient awakening from an accident with amnesia.adam and eve were never in a neighborhood with other kids forming friendship bonds for life and exchanging dreams and hopes for a future they were building in their community.

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  stuckinarut2

  Brilliantly written Terry!

  Great reasoning!

  Thanks for sharing.
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  Waking up to TTATT: Blessing or Curse?

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you take the red pill, you'll have knowledge, you'll be awakened, aware of reality, you'll have freedom.. if you take the blue pill, you stay in your bubble, wearing rose colored glasses, and feel security in an illusion.. taking the red pill isn't something that's easy to do.

  to accept that everything around you is an illusion built up on lies or half truths.

  but hey, it might feel good to be aware and break free from this illusion.

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  stuckinarut2

  I value Truth and Honesty over any temporary feel-good emotion of belonging to a special club.
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  Out of the world, into the Truth

  by apalro in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

  as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

  disappeared.

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  stuckinarut2

  And what on earth are you doing here on a predominately apostate site?

  Trying to help us see the error of our ways?? Trying to help us wake up and say "ah! It IS the truth after all..."

  If you are progressing as a witness again, then this is not the place you want to be. Stick around long enough, and explore other factual sites such as JW.facts, and you may learn some things....
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  Out of the world, into the Truth

  by apalro in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

  as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

  disappeared.

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  stuckinarut2

  Um, so an emotional feeling is more valuable to you than facts and logic?

  The "truth" is not truthful. The organisation is not gods chosen channel.

  But if it makes you feel good, or calms any guilt or self esteem issues, we wish you well.

  However, just remember the value of raising your child to value Truth and Honesty. This can't be done by being a witness....
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  JW/Mormon slogan parallel

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just came across a meme of the leader of the mormon church (lds) saying "believe, obey and endure".

  it just reminded me of the jw mantra "listen, obey and be blessed".

  😂.

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  stuckinarut2

  Great opening post! That expression is eerily similar indeed!

  The comparisons are many. I have started some threads over the years about it.

  On their website, they have a section for all ages, including cartoon characters similar to Caleb and sophia. They have mini movie dramas, they have lectures from the GB equivalent leaders...

  Spend some time on their sites (there are several sites) and the similarities are there.

  Seeing these things was one thing that helped me to see that "Jehovah's organisation " is NOT that unique as we were always told.
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  A "Three-fold cord"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.. sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "god" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.

  but how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the society, or the gb has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples.

  every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the organisation.

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  stuckinarut2

  Good point oneeyedjoe!

  You are actually on to something there! The context does give it a different meaning to what were always told it meant....
  
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  New Light - God chose the Bible students as his org long BEFORE the official inspection in 1919

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was watching this recently done new history of the society - here it is on youtube if you missed it when it first came out:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv82k1z7n_4&feature=youtu.be.

  lots of contradictory and nutty comments - for instance stating one minute that 1914 proved such a faith strengthening event because it fulfilled all their predictions, how encouraged they were, and then a few minutes later claiming the opposite - that many were disappointed and shocked because their expectations were not met!.

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  stuckinarut2

  Great points and great summary Doubtful1799!

  Thank you for sharing!

  Yes, the illogical reasoning is mind blowing! It is clear that the Organisation speaks out of both sides of its mouth, and changes history to suit whatever narrative they currently want to push...
  
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  New Song to be sung for Warwick Dedication on Oct 7

  by Drearyweather in

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  2. friends

  a place that will bring you praise.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201801_8_video.

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  Holy freakin' hell.....

  That is simply awful......
  
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  Parents who try to make you feel guilty.

  by NJ501 in

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  2. experiences

  when parents say all the things we've done for you and your not doing anything for us in return like going to meetings, witnessing, answering up etc... how do you respond to parents?.

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  stuckinarut2

  Simply offer them this brief statement:

  "Dad, Mom, I am very thankful that you raised me to value truth and honesty in all things. You taught me the importance of using my God given brain to ensure that I never betray my conscience. Thank you. It is for this reason that I have chosen to step aside from the Organization."
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  A "Three-fold cord"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.. sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "god" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.

  but how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the society, or the gb has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples.

  every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the organisation.

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  stuckinarut2

  We all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.

  Sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "God" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.

  But how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the Society, or the GB has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples. Every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the Organisation. Whether it be the house they buy, the car they drive, or the jobs they take. Then of course, it affects the personal intimacies of a family.

  So, really, does an organisation have the right to be an intrusive third wheel in a relationship? Do they really have the right to impose their views on a family unit?