Great thread!
Yes, masters at hypocrisy indeed!
i put this under the "scandal" section because it is both a scandal how the wtbts can flaunt its evil hypocrisy and an even bigger scandal that the u.n. and governments in general turn a blind eye to the treatment inflicted on anyone who questions or challenges the org's teachings and practices.
"the right to change religions is supported by the universal declaration of human rights, which the united nations has called “the foundation of international human rights law.”......of course, these rights carry with them the obligation to respect the rights of others both to maintain their beliefs and to reject ideas that they disagree with.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/change-religion/.
Great thread!
Yes, masters at hypocrisy indeed!
i reckoned that a comment by muddy waters in his latest post deserved a separate consideration - especially for active/fading j.w.'s..
's who called on him, parroted out the org's message of doom from 2 timothy 3:1-5 to remind him how bad the world is and that it showed that we are living in the last days.. a former elder/p.o.
once told me that he hated it every time the wtbts falsely applied these verses to the 20-21st century.
Great post!
this weeks watchtower study (september 2017) about self-control states: "clearly, people who lack self-control are causing problems for themselves and for others.
and the problem of lacking self-control is worsening.
self-discipline was studied in the 1940’s, but recent studies have shown that people have become much worse at exercising self-discipline.
Well said punk! (Nice new avatar again too mate!)
i was just thinking about the account of adam and eve, and how they both attempted to 'pass the buck', or shift the blame to someone else.
eve to the snake, and adam to eve.... does that sound familiar??.
the society has never taken ownership of its mistakes!
I was just thinking about the account of Adam and Eve, and how they both attempted to 'pass the buck', or shift the blame to someone else. Eve to the snake, and Adam to Eve...
Does that sound familiar??
The Society has never taken ownership of its mistakes! Be it past inaccurate teachings, writings, or ideas. Or be it the appalling mismanagement of child abuse cases etc...
NOTHING is ever their fault! They have consistently passed the blame to someone else (be it "satan's media", or the "expectations of some misguided individuals" etc...)
If we raised children who always shifted the blame or tried to excuse their errors, it would be tragic, and we would help them learn the importance of owning their mistakes......but somehow our "motherly organization" is free to do this and get away with it.
i have a memory of some rock artist of the 60s placing a pic of herself and some guy in bed and her reading an awake magazine on the back cover.
it could have been "is time running out for mankind" or something like that.
anyone remember?
Wow!
And of ALL the articles to choose, it had to be that classic one with the now infamous quote about not getting an education, because "this system will be well on its way to completion before you graduate"
Oh wow...
so i've just skived off to the car park half way through our assembly day - what a classic morning.. i'm sat right behind an early-teen kid with some sort of special needs (autistic?
) who's sat with what looks like his late-30's harassed single parent mother.
(or married to an unbelieving mate?
Smart kid!
He sounds like the young boy in the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. He actually stated the obvious, while everyone else just kept quiet and complied....
i have a 'financial advisor' email tell of massive changes coming to us (and thereby world currencies) on the above date.. does 13-dec 2017 mean anything to anyone.?.
he is talking about the removal of cash etc now if this is half way correct where does it leave the money machine of the wt?.
positive responses welcome..
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just wondering how many others (when you were still in the org) would try and listen to the meeting programmes from the perspective of a newly interested person visiting for the first time?.
i know that i did this, and most times i did, i found it disturbing!
it was not just the "in-house" language and terminology that was odd, but also the actual doctrines, and method of 'teaching' that was odd!.
Berrygerry: I remember a hipster at a convention. He left about 15-20 minutes in.
Haha..maybe it was because he didn't like the talks that condemned Beards and Tight pants? 😬
thanks to the fall guy who uploaded this to another thread.. it is so good, that it deserved a thread of its own.. compare and contrast these two organizations....!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3lk8h3--ag.
Bumped for anyone who missed it
i used to be a staunch believer in god.
maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.
do you believe in god?
Which "God" ?