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  So, is it the publicity, or act itself that "brings reproach on Jehovah's name"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".

  this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.

  making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.

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  Nice thoughts!

  Thanks
  
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  BBC Article on Two Witness Rule

  by Tricked in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42025255

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  Thanks for sharing.

  I sent the link to my Elder father.

  His reply? "Why are you sending me this?"

  My reply: Dad, it is all over the news. It is important information that all Jehovah's Witnesses should be aware of. Literally 10's of millions of dollars are being paid out by the Society, and yet no Witness is told about how the money is being spent"

  Surely this is "bringing reproach on Jehovah's name"?
  
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  So, is it the publicity, or act itself that "brings reproach on Jehovah's name"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".

  this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.

  making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.

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  stuckinarut2

  As we all sadly know, a common expression used by the Society and Elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on Jehovah's name!"

  This is uttered in order to deter making something known.

  But really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on Jehovah"?

  Making it known is not the problem.

  Rather HIDING it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings REPROACH!

  Thoughts?
  
  
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  By keeping my lapel card on after the program, I was able to provide a "Fine Witness"!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes friends!.

  after the program, i kept my "lapel badge" on.. so while filling up my car with fuel, the attendant asked me about it.

  i was able to share some great points about the wonderful program my wife and i had just enjoyed in sydney all weekend!.

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  Yes friends!

  After the program, I kept my "lapel badge" on.
  

  So while filling up my car with fuel, the attendant asked me about it. I was able to share some great points about the wonderful program my wife and I had just enjoyed in Sydney all weekend!

  https://www.thinkinc.org.au/skepticon-australia/index.html
  

  Truly, it seems like "God" had blessed our efforts, and provided an opportunity for a fine witness! Oh, and the attendant showed such interest, that him, his family and twelve relatives all accepted literature, and expressed that what we were saying "must be the truth" and are on their way to baptism......

  OK, last bit was a force of habit after a lifetime of witness "experiences"
  
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  Rock band titles from JW history / culture

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

  green bible dinosaurs.

  jezebel and the fornicators.

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  (More of a track rather than a group title)

  "Straight outta Brooklyn"

  It goes like this:

  "Straight outta Brooklyn

  crazy mother f*^ker named Russell..."
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  People Asking Me To Help Them Leave

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?

  " and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.

  then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.

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  Great work PE!!

  It shows that you are known to be kind and approachable. Keep up that wonderful and supportive nature you have.

  Yes, more and more are awakening I am sure! in our little part of the world, there have been a few also wake up recently, and it kind of just comes up in conversation...then they POUR out their hearts about these issues.

  We all need to be there for them. To be kind and supportive, without overwhelming them with lots of topics or issues.

  If we maintain our dignity, poise and grace, they will see that "apostates" are NOT crazy, mentally diseased people - rather we are loving and caring!
  
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  The Sin of Omission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have we heard of the sin of omission?.

  it refers to a situation where someone deliberately withholds some relevant or pertinent information from an investigation or enquiry.. in a criminal situation someone may purposely neglect to mention he was present, or involved in something.

  it may lead the other person to a conclusion that is not accurate...and yet the person under investigation never actually lied.. now think of a jw "judicial committee" .

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  GREAT point Divergent!
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  How many faithful old JW`s are now living in Christendoms retirement homes not being cared for by the religion they gave their life for.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it must be pointed out in favour of christendoms religions that they do not discriminate against people regarding their religious beliefs.

  many old age jehovah`s witnesses are residents of christendoms age care homes.. isn`t this a conunudrum ?

  they, jw`s condemn christendom as part of the world empire of false religion and they cast off their old faithful members to their enemy christendom , to look after them without lifting a finger themselves.. in the meantime they are raking in millions of dollars $$$$ in selling off real estate properties in new york and elsewhere around the world.

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  Great thread.

  Yes, the scripture at revelation rings out "get out from amongst her my people, and quit touching the unclean thing" - oh except in cases of need when the "unclean thing" runs a nursing home that is now depended on....
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  The Sin of Omission

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  have we heard of the sin of omission?.

  it refers to a situation where someone deliberately withholds some relevant or pertinent information from an investigation or enquiry.. in a criminal situation someone may purposely neglect to mention he was present, or involved in something.

  it may lead the other person to a conclusion that is not accurate...and yet the person under investigation never actually lied.. now think of a jw "judicial committee" .

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  Have we heard of the Sin of Omission?

  It refers to a situation where someone deliberately withholds some relevant or pertinent information from an investigation or enquiry.

  In a criminal situation someone may purposely neglect to mention he was present, or involved in something. It may lead the other person to a conclusion that is not accurate...and YET the person under investigation never ACTUALLY lied.

  Now think of a JW "Judicial Committee" . If a Witness is found guilty of, or suspected of the Sin of Omission, they may be Disfellowshipped or counselled severely with penalties imposed.

  So, HOW IS IT, that the Society / GB are themselves guilty of the Sin of Omission? They have deliberately withheld pertinent information to the flock about the society history, scandals, and inaccuracies. They deliberately white-wash information about the Child Abuse issues happening worldwide, and the MILLIONS OF DOLLARS being spent on these sad situations.

  They purposefully present broadcasts to skew the facts and distort the average JW opinions and understandings of things occurring.

  So, for an organisation that proudly proclaims themselves as "The Truth", one of their biggest sins is the Sin of Omission!
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  Leaving the ex-jw

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  james askd to be dissociate , from all the ex -jws groups in the world.we know we cannot talk to him, or eat with him.

  or have any spiritual connection with him.please report this to all ex jws, groups, congregations.. what is actually the difference of james choosing to dissociate or desfellowship.

  ?nothing he did cut his connection with ex jesus christ, so we cannot talk to him.. your brother -- edward.

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  Can we DF "the real Edward Gentry"?