working late tonight i just thought this up : whenever we used to hear someone say " so and so is not doing well spiritually™ " or "not doing well in the truth™ " what it really means is they aren't doing well climbing the wtbts's corporate ladder or doing their beck and call following the herd cult thingy.
been brought up before but had to share..feel free to add..
Yes, they use the term "spirituality" so loosly.
The measure of a witness's "spiritual" standing is purely based on outward appearances and activity doing JW activities.
It has nothing to do with one's relationship with God (if you still believe in him)
as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".
this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.
making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.
Yes Freddo!
Isnt it funny that "Satan's world" or the "superior authorities" are the ones who are helping "Jehovah's one true organization" to sort out these abuse issue!?
i've now seen a couple of references to this and did a little digging before leaving for work.
i saw someone on reddit in july saying that someone on the inside said a change was coming in 2018 with the jw message, and i've now seen two references to this in the past week.
help a former brother out.
Ah yes...all the hype is enhanced in the Society's mind, by the "apostate driven lies about child abuse" being generated by Satan's media system!
So they desperately WANT 2018 to bring an end to it....
as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".
this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.
making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.
Nice thoughts!
Thanks
Thanks for sharing.
I sent the link to my Elder father.
His reply? "Why are you sending me this?"
My reply: Dad, it is all over the news. It is important information that all Jehovah's Witnesses should be aware of. Literally 10's of millions of dollars are being paid out by the Society, and yet no Witness is told about how the money is being spent"
Surely this is "bringing reproach on Jehovah's name"?
as we all sadly know, a common expression used by the society and elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on jehovah's name!".
this is uttered in order to deter making something known.. but really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on jehovah"?.
making it known is not the problem.. rather hiding it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings reproach!.
As we all sadly know, a common expression used by the Society and Elders in cases of abuse, or scandals, is "if you talk about this, you will bring reproach on Jehovah's name!"
This is uttered in order to deter making something known.
But really, if it is a case of abuse, is not the act itself the thing that brings "reproach on Jehovah"?
Making it known is not the problem.
Rather HIDING it, or not disclosing it to authorities is the thing that brings REPROACH!
Thoughts?
yes friends!.
after the program, i kept my "lapel badge" on.. so while filling up my car with fuel, the attendant asked me about it.
i was able to share some great points about the wonderful program my wife and i had just enjoyed in sydney all weekend!.
Yes friends!
After the program, I kept my "lapel badge" on.
So while filling up my car with fuel, the attendant asked me about it. I was able to share some great points about the wonderful program my wife and I had just enjoyed in Sydney all weekend!
https://www.thinkinc.org.au/skepticon-australia/index.html
Truly, it seems like "God" had blessed our efforts, and provided an opportunity for a fine witness! Oh, and the attendant showed such interest, that him, his family and twelve relatives all accepted literature, and expressed that what we were saying "must be the truth" and are on their way to baptism......
OK, last bit was a force of habit after a lifetime of witness "experiences"
on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.
green bible dinosaurs.
jezebel and the fornicators.
(More of a track rather than a group title)
"Straight outta Brooklyn"
It goes like this:
"Straight outta Brooklyn
crazy mother f*^ker named Russell..."
i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?
" and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.
then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.
Great work PE!!
It shows that you are known to be kind and approachable. Keep up that wonderful and supportive nature you have.
Yes, more and more are awakening I am sure! in our little part of the world, there have been a few also wake up recently, and it kind of just comes up in conversation...then they POUR out their hearts about these issues.
We all need to be there for them. To be kind and supportive, without overwhelming them with lots of topics or issues.
If we maintain our dignity, poise and grace, they will see that "apostates" are NOT crazy, mentally diseased people - rather we are loving and caring!
have we heard of the sin of omission?.
it refers to a situation where someone deliberately withholds some relevant or pertinent information from an investigation or enquiry.. in a criminal situation someone may purposely neglect to mention he was present, or involved in something.
it may lead the other person to a conclusion that is not accurate...and yet the person under investigation never actually lied.. now think of a jw "judicial committee" .
GREAT point Divergent!
