not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.
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what about you!
It is a sad fact that most people who escape the high control and guilt inducing grasp of JW sexual upbringing, realise this long after the best years of their lives have passed!
Sadly, the mind is released from the religious guilt, but the body is physically older and past its prime by that time!
my first impressions watching it, coming from a heterosexual male, was that it was just plain ridiculous (big surprise, i know), but i just want to share some thoughts as to why.. regarding the hypothetical scenario of two guys asking each other if they've ever woken up with an erection and other stuff like that: no, that would not arouse me.
i'm talking with a male, which i'm not sexually attracted to, and assuming he's a friend, it's just a casual conversation that i'm mature enough to handle.
the only way this is flirting (and then only maybe) is if one of us is gay.
Great comments NBD!
Yes, I agree with all you wrote.
Also, as an ex-bethelite (5 years), I can attests to the fact that during the bethel entrants school, sexual topics were covered, including a focus on pornography, and masturbation.
But I don't remember it being so painfully and specifically spelled out with such scenarios. These new videos take it to a whole new level of oddness!
local newspaper in finland has published an article concerning wtbs:s "pillowgate@ videos.
the local "communications manager" of jehovah's witnesses - veikko leinonen - has declined to comment them.
according to him they are for internal use only.
Thanks for sharing.
The more publicity the better!
if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.
Wow Steve2!
Your comments on the previous page were brilliant!
the new "pillowgate" video exposed a loophole in the witnesses´s thinking, showing how dangerous and stupid legalism is.. this loophole is sure to destroy many people´s lives.. 1) they said that two men masturbating at the same time in front of each other does not constitute "porneia".. 2) "porneia" is the only biblical reason for divorce.. 3) from 1) we can also get two women masturbating in front of each other, or a man and a woman masturbating in front of each other, does not constitute "porneia".4) most people would consider masturbating at the same time with another person to be cheating, and a logical reason for divorce.. so this will lead to many witnesses going to the elders and being told that they cannot divorce this person who clearly cheated on them.
then, if this person (the "innocent mate") divorces and marries someone else, then that person would be the one possibly disfellowshipped!the implications of the loophole are so stupid and so damaging!i predict another flip-flop.
"considering things more closely, this is "porneia"... or doubling down on it ("sorry but that is what the biblical limits are") or just fading away into those things that only 1% of jw´s know it´s a rule....
Ah, but if one of them does not reach orgasm, is it still "pornea"?
Stupid f^%ktards! The GB really have become a laughing stock! As "jesus" said: "You have made the word of God invalid by your traditions"
if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.
"You know that I have always appreciated the way you value Truth and Honesty my friend. These qualities are so precious and important. I also value Truth and Honesty, and it is for this reason that I have kept my conscience clean by carefully examining my faith. I am more than happy to share these truthful things with you if you wish.?"
is this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
Bobby2446, why are you still here?
Have you not heard everyone?
Please go and "know" yourself.... (by the way, that is a euphemism)
i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.
it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.
i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".
Great idea Dubstepped!
Please do your story with dubstepped PE!!!
We would love that
this week's clam meeting has a video from jwborg entitled refreshing those “toiling and loaded down” about the organisation's response to two terrorist's attacks in new york (twin towers) and paris (bataclan 2015).. to me it is more about a back slapping "look what we do for you" than a "left hand not letting the right know" (matt 6 v 3) action of love and care.. ... ... ... ... ... .... if you've read this far - by contrast please google "didi bataclan paris" to read about a true unsung hero.
not forgetting the true heroes of 9/11 .... ... ... ... ... ... .
am i too cynical?.
And yet the greatest irony is, that if Jehovah brought on Armageddon the day before those attacks, BILLIONS would have been killed in what amounts to a mass divine terrorist attack!
So HOW can JWs mourn the loss of people to terrorism, when their very God will carry out a much worse attack "at any moment"!?
(according to JW theology, those who died in a terrorist attack actually are better off, as they will be guaranteed a ressurection into the paradise new world because they died before Armageddon, right? So it's good that they died, right?)
i've come across a jw friendly article about watchtower predicting smartphones in the 20s.. .
of course, in the comments section there are a lot of jws freaking out saying "there is no doubt that this is the only true organization!
", "thanks jehovah that used his faithful and discreet slave to tell us some useful information about the future!
They couldn't avoid the ever changing "new light" phenomenon though...
How many "study" books have we had now that have had to be deleted?
Truth book
Paradise on earth book
Knowledge book
etc....
And all with new teachings to replace the old...
