Further, was Jesus dead three days, i.e. 72 hours, or merely parts of three days, i.e. died on Friday, raised on Sunday (or, died on Thursday raised on Saturday)? For that matter, was Jesus raised at all? Only a handful of people were supposed to have seen him raised up, and the only accounts which make the claim were written decades after the supposed events. This should have been BIG NEWS, so why no writings from 33, and why did he not appear to more people who witnessed the crucifixion, etc, so there would be an indisputable public record?
As it is, there are MANY more people who claim to have ridden in flying saucers than there ever were people who claimed to see Jesus raised up.
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Jesis' death and resurection
by CHILD inwhy was jesus resurrected on the third day?
was there some significance?
i was told the jews did not believe one was really dead until the third day.
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Favorite Seinfeld Quotes
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini may be the only one that posts on this and i'm going to bed but i'm starting this thread anyway.
i love imbd.
*********************************************** ******************************************************************************* george costanza: you ask me to have lunch, tell me you slept with elaine, and then say you're not in the mood for details.
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Since "they're real, and they're SPECTACULAR" was already mentioned, how about when George was trying to help Jerry remember his girlfriends name, which "sounded like a female body part"..."Mulva? Hest?"
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Do you believe we are alone (Aliens, God and Angels)?
by Layla33 ina post someone else made, just made me want to start a discussion on the ideas of aliens, people from other planets, etc and our ideas of god, jesus and angels/demons.. the first time i ever even thought about this on any real level was when i was taking a greek mythology course and we were talking about avatars and the like, at the very same time i was taking a philosophy course and started discussing "did god create man or did man create god".
it was during that semester that that a group of friends and i started having these very existential discussion which lead to some very interesting questions and dialogue.
i have never looked at things the same.. flash forward to about three and a half years ago and through a chain of events, i am in a room with people from nasa working on a grant proposal.
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Life on Earth began soon after the temperature dropped enough to allow the existence of liquid water, approximately 3.5 Billion years ago. The chemical components of life are found almost everywhere, even in the cores of comets. This suggests that life will occur anywhere conditions are right. So it would be statistically improbable that we find ourselves alone in the universe.
Odds are, life of one form or another will be found on every world with moderate temperatures and liquid water. At the very least, further exploration of Mars will reveal traces of former life, if not living organisms themselves.
Not sure if intelligent life has ever visited Earth but Zecheriah Sitchin has written many books on the subject.
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People Meant To Live Forever
by choosing life ini was thinking about the reasoning the watchtower used as a proof that people were really meant to live forever.
they said that because our cells continually replace themselves, we really were made to live forever.
they even went so far as to say scientists could not figure out why this process didn't go on forever and were puzzled by this.. then i realized that all animals have the same mechanisms in place, yet the witnesses say they were not meant to live forever.
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There is a good article on cell replacement in the newest issue of Scientific American, which compares the method used in salamanders with that in humans. If humans were REALLY meant to live forever, they would use the salamander method, which allows new limbs to grow if one is lost. Perhaps salamanders were meant to live forever.
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Christianity in a nutshell?
by gaiagirl in"the belief that a jewish zombie who can make you live forever in paradise if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree".. .
pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
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Kneel before the Lord? Feel his Love? Isn't that what some child abusers say to their victims?
(And I'm totally serious, not intending that as a joke in any way, shape, or fashion).
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Were You Ever Counseled Because Of What You Wore (or didn't)?
by minimus inafter reading the thread about what is acceptable to wear and not wear in a factory run by jehovah's witnesses, i wondered whether any here ever got counseled or in trouble because of their fashion sense or attire.
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I was counseled at various times for sundresses, skirts "too short", Dr. Scholls sandals, Doc Martens, celtic jewelery which looked "pagan", no hose, thongs, sometimes no bra, etc.
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Christianity in a nutshell?
by gaiagirl in"the belief that a jewish zombie who can make you live forever in paradise if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree".. .
pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
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"The belief that a jewish Zombie who can make you live forever in paradise if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree".
Pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
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Did Prayer work for you, or not?
by gaiagirl injws, and christians in genreral, are taught that god answers prayers of sincere believers.
on the other hand, there is a popular bumpersticker which reads "nothing fails like prayer".. what has been your experience in this regard?
did god answer your most heartfelt prayers, or were they ignored?.
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JWs, and Christians in genreral, are taught that God answers prayers of sincere believers. On the other hand, there is a popular bumpersticker which reads "Nothing FAILS like prayer".
What has been your experience in this regard? Did God answer your most heartfelt prayers, or were they ignored?
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armaggedon
by vat152 ini'm sure that the topic of armageddon has risen it's ugly head before but can anyone out there tell me when the armaggedon will happen (try to be precise please otherwise to me as a non-believer it will look like you're guessing) and has anyone got any concrete evidence of why and how it will happen?
oh and can you give evidence about when it will happen?
thank you.. go on convince me!!
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Most of the scriptural verses which people use trying to prove that Armageddon is near were written with the idea of God's forces removing the occupying Roman forces from the lands which were once the nation of Israel. However, every single Bible writer who lived in the first century died without seeing this happen. It seems to be a case of wishful bragging, i.e. "My God is going to whip your armies"...except he never did.
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Whose religion is WORSE than JW's?
by gaiagirl inthought it might be interesting to put a perspective on things.
while many here have had terrible experiences at the hands of jw's and the wtbts, are there religions that you know of which are any worse?
for example, jw's might disfellowship a member who became known as a thief, but they don't chop off your hand.
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I'm not sure that the Islamic religion in general is worse, but fundamentalist Islam is probably at least as bad, if not worse. I've known liberal Muslims who don't support terrorism or Sharia law. It's easy to confuse problems which arise from a fundamentalist outlook with problems arising from the basic religion itself. I'd go so far as to say that MANY of the problems which we are familiar with in the JW religion are also found in other fundamentalist religions. That is to say, a fundamentalist Baptist, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Mormon, etc congregation would be every bit as rigid, cultlike and controlling as a JW congregation. I don't know enough about Scientology to comment.