A greek named Solon who visited Egypt claimed to visit the temple of the goddess Neith. Conversation with a priest there led to him being shown astronomical records showing solar and lunar eclipses for the previous 10,000 years. If this is true, then Egyptian civilization could be far older than current evidence supports. Solons account may be apocryphal, however, even if Egyptian civilization is no older than current teachings say it is, this would still be sufficiently old to have been around for the alleged "world-wide" flood. The interesting thing is, the Egyptians somehow didn't even notice. Neither did the Indians, Chinese, etc. I second the recommendation for the book "Noahs Flood" by Ryan and Pitman. It is based on sound evidence, and proposes a reasonable basis for the flood legend. This was also recently shown as a special on PBS (I believe on the show Nova). Basically, as the ice melted at the end of the last glaciation, sea level rose worldwide. There were humans living all over Europe, Asia, and Africa by this time, and some had settled around the shores of what is now the Black Sea. With sea level hundreds of feet lower than at present, the Black Sea was not connected to the Mediterranean, but was a much smaller body of fresh water. Of course, people lived near its shores, for the water and the game which would come to drink there. As sea level rose, however, it reached the point where salt water from the Mediterranean breached the land, and began spilling into the Black Sea. Eventually, erosion allowed the trickle of water to become a raging torrent, and the villages around the Black Sea were submerged. People abandoned their villages and moved to other regions, including southeast into Canaan. They told their story of a huge flood which wiped out their home over many generations and thousands of years before it was written down. No surprise that there are flood legends in many cultures. "Noahs Flood" by Ryan and Pitman.....good book.
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STARDATING,the great pyramid and problems with noah's flood
by badboy inthe great pyramid has been stardated 2 2478 bc(approxiametly) b4 noah's flood.. joshua victory(when the sun didn't set) 1404 bc.
amos written about june 15 763 bc.
a reasonable proposal; y not examine the great pyramid 4 signs of the global deluge, if such an event occured
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What is Christmas to an Ex-JW?
by Amazing inwhat is christmas to you?
if you were raised a jw, as my children were, getting used to christmas takes time, and does not carry with it any memories.
for others who became jws later in life, it took time to get over christmas and learn to discredit the custom and lose feelings for it, and in some cases even learn to hate christmas as an evil pagan evoluton of apostate christianity.. .
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Last Sunday I attended a 'Solstice' Dance at the Unitarian Universalist church. The dance was a celebration of the season, the impending return of the Sun to warmth and strength. There were probably 50 of us in the sanctuary of the church, with beautiful candles and pine boughs in the center of the room, also around the perimeter. We danced traditional folk circle dances by the light of the candles and to the tune of music from varous cultures. I remember the name of one tune, "Kyrie", performed by Robert Gass & Wings of Song (I have the CD, so recognized it). During this song, several women knelt in the center of the room, and held candles in their open palms while the rest of us slowly danced around them. I cannot describe how powerfully moving this event was, but it provided something which I never experienced at any function at the Kingdom Hall. This was my third Solstice Dance, and I hope to attend many more.
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What Music Do You LOVE To Listen To? What Do You HATE?
by minimus ini love r&b, soul, neo-soul, and "classic" disco.
certain groups and performers i've seen and enjoyed were earth, wind & fire, marvin gaye, anita baker, the temptations,luther vandross, janet jackson, and literally hundreds more.
i don't care for country/western, punk rock or heavy metal..........what do you like/don't like?
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I like a number of 'New Age' musicians, such as Jonn Serrie, Tangerine Dream, Mars Laser, Michael Stearns, Steve Roach, Enya, Constance Demby, Cerridwynn, Ronan Hardiman, and the 'Hearts of Space', and 'Omni' collections. Some of these can make me feel like I'm drifting through interstellar space, and actually FEEL the starlight on my skin. When I want to dance, I enjoy electronica, such as TUU, Sounds From The Ground, Higher Intelligence Agency, Starseeds, A Positive LIfe, G.O.L., Zero One, and other music such as that found on the Waveform label. Liz Phair, Juliana Hatfield, the Bangles, Pat Benetar and the B-52s are all good, and Weird Al Yankovic always makes me smile. I enjoy his satirical depiction of Western culture. Some will take exception to this, and may even be offended, however I don't enjoy rap in the slightest, and I offer no apologies. Rap may speak to some, but it doesn't speak to me at all.
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What is the difference between Christianity and Paganism?
by CruithneLaLuna inrecently i had the opportunity to read the first three or four chapters of a very interesting book: the jesus mysteries : was the "original jesus" a pagan god?
i regret that circumstances prevented me from completing my reading.
i may choose to purchase a copy of this book for my personal library, and so that i can finish reading it.
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It is absolutely true that Christianity has stolen many beliefs and practices from the older religions. There does however, seem to be a basic difference in the overall worldview of Pagans and Chrisitians. There are probably exceptions to this general observation but: Christians see themselves as separate from the natural world, not part of it. The Christian view of the natural world is a very complex machine, set in motion long ago, and slowly running down. One Christian bumpersticker I saw said "Earth Will Burn, Save Your Soul Instead". Attitudes such as this lead to environmental destruction, i.e. "What difference does it make if we don't practice conservation? Armageddon (or the Rapture, etc) will take care of everything." Christians also are largly unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions. In their view, humans were originally perfect, but made an error generations ago, and therefore are weak, and susceptible to influence by evil spirits. When a Chrisitian commits some atrocity, they 'were led astray by Satan'. Also, any cruel act against someone not sharing "Christian beliefs" can be justified on the grounds that "God hates the unbeliever". Pagans, at least those I know, see themselves as an integral part of the natural world. The Pagan view is generally of an organic living, cosmos which grew from a 'seed' or 'egg' (astronomers would refer to a singularity), and which still lives and grows today. In accord with this view, Earth is sacred, and honored, as a literal parent who contributed every atom making up our bodies, and every bit of food with which we are nourished. Pagans see humans as beings who make choices. The consequences of actions, good or bad, return to the individual, thus engaging them in a meaningful way with reponsibility for their actions toward other humans.
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Does anyone else use Firebird?
by NukePoet ini love it so far!
ive had it for two days now, and so far so good.
the only draw back is that iespell doesnt work on it.
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I use Mozilla 1.4, as one of the default browsers for BeOS. I tried Firebird, but the BeOS version wouldn't work in full screen. Not much difference anyway, IMHO, both based on Netscape.
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How do jws explain what happened 2 the Noah flood waters?
by badboy inwhere did all that water go that supposedly covered the earth?
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"To answer a question with a question: how much of the earth would be under water if the polar ice caps were to melt?" This has been calculated by geologists and geographers. The answer is essentially that low coastal areas such as Louisiana, the Netherlands, the Nile Delta and Bangladesh would be submerged. Most of the Mississippi valley would also become an inland sea, extending roughly to Memphis. However, there is nowhere near enough water to create anything like "Waterworld", the disaster epic film starring Kevin Costner. Although I enjoyed seeing the Exxon Valdez get her just desserts, the basic premise for the film was scientifically flawed. The geologic evidence is unambiguous: At no time during the existence of the human race, or even of vertebrate life, has the entire planet been covered by water. This is evidenced bythe presence of sedimentary rocks in every age, even in the distant past. These rocks are formed by the erosion of rocks ABOVE sea level. To be sure, there WERE oceans existing, but they were not universal in extent gaiagirl
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Explain your Avatar
by simplesally inobviously, mine is a picture of me.....it was taken at a hockey game at staples center: go kings!
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odrade has a very pretty picture and i was wondering if that was her or a character from a movie?
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My avatar is the character 'Sprite' from Disney's Fantasia 2000. For those who may not have seen the film, she represents the life-force of the natural world, causing things to grow. Her image was given to me by some friends, who said that she reminded them of me. Gaiagirl
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How old is Humanity?
by JH inis humanity only 6000 years old like the witnesses say?
here is an interesting link to drawings found in a cave in france.
these drawings are older than 6000 years.
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About 2600 years ago, the Greek philosopher Solon visited a priest of the Goddess Neith in Egypt. Solon wrote about his experiences and claimed that he was shown astronomical records which documented every solar and lunar eclipse for the previous 10,000 years. If these records really existed, they would push the existence of civilization back far beyond what is known today. It is possible that such records were lost in later times, for example in early 400's, when the Library at Alexandria was burned.
The famous 'Iceman' who was found in a glacier about 10 years ago was carrying an axe made of copper (or possibly bronze, can't recall right now), and he lived more than 5000 years ago.
'Humanity' would probably have existed a long, long time before 'civilization'. If you accept that people who used fire, made tools from stone, and buried their dead with flowers and possessions are 'human', then Neanderthals were doing these things perhaps 250,000 years ago. Other hominids are believed to have been using fire even before then.
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Canadian Women want pointy feet! - WHATS GOING ON!?
by ISP inwomen pay to put best foot forward
sarah ryan
canwest news service
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Gross! Maiming oneself in such a way for the sake of fashion is extemely shallow.
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Does anybody here read Zecharia Sitchin?
by Waymores Ghost in.
there are many events in genesis you can actually take quite literally (when seen through the eyes of ancient peoples) if any of the ancient sumarian writings are factually correct.
fundies like jws wouldn't be able to handle that kinda truth.
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The problem is that these writings, like those of Velikovsky, is that they are based on the assumption that the mythology of ancient people should be read as actual history. While some of the stories may be based on a core historical event, retelling them orally for generations resulted in details being changed, and at times different accounts were combined into one by a later teller. Even a casual reading of Genesis shows numerous contradictions. For example, Chapter 1 says vegetation before people, chapter 2 says that people came before vegetation. Both cannot be simultaneously true.
Another claim is that green grass existed before the Sun, which clearly cannot be based on actual events. One would think that nomadic people living in close contact with the natural world would have known better than this.
Interpreting documents to claim that the human race was created by 'alien beings' simply raises the question 'How did the aliens come to exist?' Were they the product of evolution, or did someone else create them. If someone created THEM, who created that someone?...
I was once asked to review a videotape which supported many of these ideas. While the production values were very good, the tape made similar claims about alien races on various planets interacting with Earth. Additionally, the claim was made that planets moved from one orbit to another in short periods of time without destroying themselves, or that they approached closely to other planets, exchanging atmospheric gases, etc. The easiest claim to test was that one planet rotated with its north pole always facing the Sun, which is not physically possible (try this with a gyroscope or a rapidly spinning bicycle wheel and feel it twist in your hand).
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