Feb 2001 for me. I was fading for years before but no one really cares as long as you make the meetings, go out in service, etc. It's funny the freinds that I thought I had I do not really miss. You would think they would include me in some of their socal activities but no way every hall has their clicks and you are either in or out. I guess in my later years as a witness I was not in the click. When the elders find out that you slip out of line then you have the elders over you like bees on honey. The big D'F by a committie is always one sided no matter if you have an appeal committie or not. Then these elders will come back around in a year later to see if you want to come back. Yea right.... they are there because the society told the elders to visit D'F people once a year and because they can count time (Not because they are interested in you)
Posts by CaptK
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45SURVEY: How Long Have You Been Out Of The "Truth"?
by minimus inare you still "in"?
have you altogether stopped attending meetings?
for how long have you been "out"?
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The 2003 WT CD
by 95stormfront in.
did anyone else know that this has already been quietly released ?.
pm me.
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CaptK
I am interested in abtaining a copy of the 2003 Cd (English) if anyone has one let me know. thanks
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Just by curiosity, I went to the meeting today
by JH insince being inactive for so many years, i occasionally showed up at the hall, just to understand why i wasn't able to go again.
since joining this forum, i went only 2 or 3 times, each time with the same conclusion.
i just can't do it anymore...even before joining this board, i lost the desire to go there.
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CaptK
I have been going for the past year and you are right same old agenda. Old faces I see as I was away for a few years. I was D/F in Feb 2001 and working toward that re-instatement thing. I have only been attending sunday so I could be in limbo land a long time. With work and school who has time to do the every other day meeting thing? It was funny yesterday a worldly freind called me up to enjoy the evening at the Lake then stay over but I knew I would miss the mourning meeting. After sitting in the talk and Watchtower I think I should have went to the Lake. More later
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Anyone know of elders in the Tampa area?
by CaptK inis there anyone that knows of any elders in the tampa, fla area ?
let me know if you have any conflicts, or likes and dislikes from this area.
thanks
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CaptK
Is there anyone that knows of any elders in the Tampa, Fla area ? Let me know if you have any conflicts, or likes and dislikes from this area. Thanks
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No Visit of Encouragement
by CaptK ini have a question that hopefully someone can answer.
i am currently disfellowshiped but attending the sunday meetings at the kingdom hall.
i live with my mother who is in her late 70's and has been a witness for over 50 years.
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CaptK
Greetings to All
I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. I am currently disfellowshiped but attending the Sunday meetings at the Kingdom Hall. I live with my mother who is in her late 70's and has been a witness for over 50 years. Recently, during the last year, she has had health problems and has not been able to make the meetings until last month when the weather turned better. Last Saturday she was sitting in her living room chair and noticed a car group of witnesses was out doing door to door work on the street. She notices who they are as they approch the neighbor's door. It was Elder XXX with his partner from the Kingdom Hall. She procedes to the front door to open it expecting an encouraging visit, but they walk right by to the next neighbor's house both of which are not interested. She was very dis-couraged and felt that this was a direct snub as she says "they could of spent 5 minutes of time" asking me how I was and such. My question is there an un-written rule that a witness will not stop if there is a disfellowshiped person in the house. Was it from me or is this just a lack of appreciation for a longtime witness because you cannot count time on "encouragement visits". I live upstairs so the elder would not even have to worry if he has to run into a "disfellowshiped person" She is perplexed and wonder where is all this "Love" that is suppose to be there. Why do they spend so much time with people on the outside that could care less and will not give lifetime members 5 minites of encouragement. She was going to write a letter to the WT society over this incident because it upset her so much. Any answers to this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks CaptK
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Driving to Meeting
by CaptK inthis is a classic !
i am currently disfellowshiped and have been attending the sunday meetings at the kingdom hall for the last 2 years.
i am in my mid to late 40's.
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This is a Classic !
I am currently disfellowshiped and have been attending the Sunday meetings at the Kingdom Hall for the last 2 years. I am in my mid to late 40's. For the last two weeks I was waiting for a traffic light near where I live and this young newly married MS came up behind me. After seeing "me" the light turns green and he quickly proceeds in the other lane passing me at a very fast rate of speed. The speed limit is 35 on this roadway. I accelerate to 50 mph+ and still could not catch him. He had to be going at least 60 mph. There at the meeting he is there..then during the Watchtower this Jack*ss is the Watchtower reader. Of course I cannot say anything to him as I am the "bad" guy and the "evil" one. I am trying to come back to meetings but what do you do when you run into this jack*ss. I am still trying to figure this all out. Yeah he will survive the big "A" I will not. He is the so called " Christian" and I am not. He is in good standing with the "elders" I am not.
Do the elders really know these jak*sses or are they so blind that they will allow anybody in.
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To those who were DFd
by stillajwexelder inthose of you on this board who were given the big d -- how did you actually feel at the moment the chairman of the jc that dfd you said those words -- angry -upset -toatl relief -- yipee?
again sorry if there has been a post on this subject before --but an update for us newer ones never does any harm
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CaptK
Myself.... I thought if you confess your sins, the elders would show mercy and help you through your problems. I received just the opposite. One elder threw his Bible down on the table and said I should have done this or that!! He was very mad even violent. After a short dismissal they invite you back in and his buddy a jr elder (about 22-25 yr old) said brother xxxx You Are Disfellowshipped. I was looking at him across the conference table and he had glow in his eyes that he wanted me out and he was really happy that He was part of a decision to get me out!!!. It was funny looking back on the situation I called an appeal committee thinking that I would get a different decision. Wrong!! Get this..These guys showed up at the KH,, they meet together first, {the org elders and the 5 new elders), then invite me in to the conference room, I tell my story again, this time to 9 elders...(the original 4 and 5 they brought in from another hall) {Here I thought that the original committee was to be thrown out} They dismiss me (then after 15-30 min) call me back in to inform me that they are going to stand by the decision of the original committee. {Dah...a course you are going to stand by the original committie..You are not going to jeopardize your elder job over a pee-on like me} {What was I thinking?} After the mess, I have a whole new set of friends, I felt really relieved for the first time in a long time, back in school advancing my career, and living a much happier life.
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Accepted by the click
by CaptK inhello ....has anyone ever noticed that among the witnesses there is a certain un-written rules that you must do in order to be accepted and then it may only last a few years.
at my hall it was attend all your meetings, be regular out in service on the weekends, give talks in the school, always praise the elders, have proper dress and grooming.
nobody really cared if you are forced to work meeting nights, going back to school to keep up with your job, not putting in the quota of hours in the field, etc, etc.
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Hello ....Has anyone ever noticed that among the Witnesses there is a certain un-written rules that you must do in order to be accepted and then it may only last a few years. At my hall it was attend all your meetings, be regular out in service on the weekends, give talks in the school, always praise the elders, have proper dress and grooming. Nobody really cared if you are forced to work meeting nights, going back to school to keep up with your job, not putting in the quota of hours in the field, etc, etc. It seems if you are doing the later you are just dropped big time as if you recieved the mark as a bad example. On the other hand someone else could not even be working, padding his time for field service, giving talks that someone else had put together, etc, etc. Yet these individuals get promoted to Ms or Elder over time, are accepted by the established click of freinds, and are treated with respect in the circle of freinds at the hall. In reality these ones are not examples to the flock. What happened to the hospitality that is suppose to be shown to all, the encouragement that everybody needs from time to time. It seems that something is lacking or did I miss the boat in the click network?
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Elder's comment
by CaptK inthis is unbelievable.
i was at the watchtower meeting last sunday and one elder gave an answer that jw 's do not have the problems like the cathlic church where the preist are molesting boys or the church has to pay huge sums of money out to abused cases.
is he not aware what is happening within the jw organization ?
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Yes it was rather funny as the subject from the Lesson was on Honesty. He was telling how the JW's do not have these issues because they are honest
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Elder's comment
by CaptK inthis is unbelievable.
i was at the watchtower meeting last sunday and one elder gave an answer that jw 's do not have the problems like the cathlic church where the preist are molesting boys or the church has to pay huge sums of money out to abused cases.
is he not aware what is happening within the jw organization ?
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This is unbelievable. I was at the Watchtower meeting last Sunday and one elder gave an answer that JW 's do not have the problems like the Cathlic church where the preist are molesting boys or the church has to pay huge sums of money out to abused cases. Is he not aware what is happening within the JW organization ? I read all the time of child abuse cases, news reports on message boards, and cases of fraud by "so - called elders" trying to scam elderly members through fake promissary notes, etc. It is hard to justify a comment by a respect person such as an elder. Are they not aware of what is going on in the WT organization or is this a coverup so the rest of the flock does not go astray?