someone emailed me who lurks and asked if i could repost this thread from my archives-
she has issues with the bible and how it is always giving folks hope, yet never delivers- she wanted to know why has the last days been going on since- the bible was written-??
i'm just doing the lady a favor- i told her what i thought of the following repost.
wow. People have sucked for millennia!CZAR
Spot on! Going back to the Garden of Eden (for those that believe the Bible), I don't think evil entered the world when Eve chatted to a snake. I think it happened earlier on, as soon as God created Man. If he had just stuck with animals, imagine what a beautiful place the world would be. Terri
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it is under the guise of making them feel wanted but it is more likely a passive-aggressive means to show women what their place is and to stay there.. .
fear of god impelled two women to defy a pharaoh.
Had I gone to the KH today without any knowledge of this board or Blondie's review, I would have felt irritated and depressed. Before I became a JW, I was all for equality of the sexes, but the WTS knocked it all out of me. I used to think I had a serious problem for feeling resentful towards the spotty MS who was just out of short pants, telling me what to do. Now I realise I was right all along.
Thanks for the review - it has really helped me today.
Terri
does there seem to be a higher incidence of infidelity amongst the jws?.
my brother, who is an active jw and ministerial servant, has an elder friend who was recently disfellowshipped for having an affair with another sister in the hall.
it turns out this sister was divorced a few years earlier from a "worldly" man who had an affair on her.
I agree the stats aren't much different to any other organisation. My congregation has many 2nd and 3rd marriages and many cases of infidelity. But that just highlights what nonsense most JWs spout. They are always harping on about how different they are to 'the world' and how wonderfully happy JW marriages are - this isn't true. They are just as prone to failure as marriages in any other religion. And I have been hit on by a married elder also, just like Stacy - but I am a married lady with lots of kids and so was this elder - many years ago - what a creep!
Terri
ok, so we all know that the society if against ouija boards.
but even many "worldy" spirtualist and ufo types say ouija boards are dangerous.. so, have any of you ever messed around with one?.
i did with my wife and sister in law and all it spewed out was meaningless garbage.
Haereticus,
Is this true? The WTS were pro-ouija before 1953? Do you have any more info on that?
This is just something I've always been interested in.
Terri
if anyone can fill me in, i'd truly appreciate it.
a few days ago i came across a brief reference to changes that the wt made to the separation of the sheep and goat doctrine.
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As far as I know, the WTS were previously saying that the separation work is going on now, with people being separated on the ministry according to how they respond and also the brothers and sisters, eg.whether they stay loyal to the WTS ets. Now, I THINK they say that the separation work is yet to come, at the end, when Jesus will finally separate the sheep from the goats.
I could be slightly wrong here - can someone else give a more accurate interpretation of the current belief regarding this? I have been a bit out of things lately.
Terri
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i'm sure the wts won't be using this example to show how evil everyone outside the wts is:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/3264657.stm.
That's a really nice story.
I was reading yesterday of a young student who won £16,000 on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire' and she gave the whole lot to an orphanage (in Thailand I think) where she worked during her gap year. She really needed a computer for her studies but decided the kids in the orphanage needed the money more. I hope some rich person reads about her and gives her a computer.
I am really going to enjoy doing lots for charity now that I am moving away from the WTS. I used to belong to lots many years ago and took part in fundraising and everything. But since becoming a JW, it was frowned upon as a waste of time and money so I had to stop. Now I am (almost) free to do it again!
Terri
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Blondie,
I took a print-out of your review with me this morning. I didn't want to go to the KH, but sometimes the emotional blackmail can tug at my heartstrings so much, plus I have the elders on my back threatening to call to see how I am as I am missing so many meetings, so I thought I would put in an apprearance to keep them at bay.
All I can say is I am now totally convinced this is NOT the truth. I felt horrible. Some people in my congregation give me the creeps. I totally agree with the previous comments that say there is more unloving behaviour in the organisation that outside it. What gets me is nobody else seems to see this - they keep on harping on about how wonderful the truth is and how great it is to be in a spiritual paradise. This makes me sick. I just can't see it Some of the things I have seen and heard over the years have been very cruel and downright evil, and I have been to 7 different congregations in my time - all pretty much the same.
Thank you Blondie for keeping me sane on a particularly cold, wet and depressing day.
Terri
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he wrote: "whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.
Blondie,
Since I started reading this board, I always look out for your WT comments. It has got to be one of the best things here and it really helps me.
I am slowly drawing away from the organisation (but slowly due to family still in) and your comments really help me to look at things 'outside' the brainwashed way I used to.
Many thanks
Terri
i'm new here but i'm wondering if any one knows the answer to this.
and united nations i thought there was a reference of admission from the watchtower bible & tract in one of he daily texts.
if any one knows about this about this and could refer me to where it is located i would much appreciate it.. thanks so much......mooneyes
Hi Mooneyes and welcome! I'm pretty new too and I'm sure you'll find this place as informative as I have.
I'm afraid I can't help you much with your question, but I'd be interested in finding out about this if anyone else can help. I seem to remember reading something that was said by the WTS, whether it was an elder's letter somebody posted to this board or a letter to the congregations or something. I'm sure it was just their way of wriggling out of any responsibility and they implied that joining the UN was done for the most upright and admirable reasons. Anyway, I seem to remember it was something pretty sickening.
I was truly amazed when I discovered the UN issue. It wasn't long ago and I still find it hard to believe that I didn't find out sooner. I must have been going around with blinkers on.
Terri
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i make no apologies for going on about the 80's again, its just that i've been having another nostalgia music session again.....you know dig out all your favourite tracks type thing..... i nominate........ duran duran union of the snake.
i reserve the right to change this though, with out warning......
I love practically every song that's been mentioned so far. Not sure if this one has cos I may have mssed it -
Vienna - Ultravox
Terri
