Just a follow up at the meeting tonight for the local needs the elder mentioned everyone needing an up to date dpa and to see him about getting one and filling it out. the blood doctrine is alive and kicking.
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Food tickets
by sloppyjoe2 indoes anyone have a picture of the food tickets we used to use at assemblies?.
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I remember them with no value printed on them and being yellow in color.
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Implications of Dropping "Types/Anti-Types"
by Antioch ini've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .
the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.
i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.
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Yeah in their new bible. They have covered their bases I think pertaining to that. As far as the generations teaching, ray franz wrote crisis of conscience in 1983 and predicted they would have to change it. I can't imagine he was the only one to realize that On the GB.
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by sloppyjoe2 indoes anyone have a picture of the food tickets we used to use at assemblies?.
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Does anyone have a picture of the food tickets we used to use at assemblies?
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Is This ALL the Society Meant By Big Stuff Coming?
by millie210 inok, internet tv, some new songs and updates on a couple obscure prophecies no one cares about.... .
i for one was so disappointed at the smallness of it.
i guess i bought the hype that when they said "big", they meant it.. .
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Can we get the cheese Danishes again?
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Implications of Dropping "Types/Anti-Types"
by Antioch ini've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .
the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.
i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.
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@greatteacher I believe they anticipated that already by changing Matthew 24:46 from "arriving" to "coming". In doing so it automatically creates an appointment and a future second coming from the appointment.
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Has anyone else heard this about the GB??
by FeelingFree inok so me and my husband were talking to his mum again about why we are no longer going to meetings and got into another pointless discussion where she feels he needs to talk to an elder about his issue's blah, blah, blah... round and round it went...... the thing i wanted to ask was if anybody had heard that there wont be any gb after these one's die??
this is something she mentioned today and we have never heard of this ever.
so it means no more will be appointed and they will just die off!
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JWs will come up with anything to try and reason why they are so close to an end. This probably comes from people thinking there will be no more anointed to take over or the overlapping generation teaching means it must come before this GB dies. There will ALWAYS be people who claim to be anointed and there will ALWAYS be a governing body.
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@label licker,
That's exactly what I am saying, the elders of the HLC for the area have taken over. The blood stance is still there. The reason they "allow" it with children is because federal law does not allow a parent to make a medical decision that in the view of a medical professional could hurt the child. The courts will step in and take custody and order the treatment. Hence no underage child can refuse a blood transfusion legally nor can a parent keep that from happening legally.
I notice you said the elder said to take blood and not tell anyone. That's the important part, not tell anyone. The official stance is blood is still not allowed. That is not a watchtower direction, that was that particular elder who may very well himself disagree with the blood issue. The one issue you said that a child was involved who was going to get blood anyway against everyone's wishes. One other aspect to know, an adult also cannot refuse medical treatment that may harm a viable fetus in certain states. I don't know if that was the case or not but it's just another law. The watchtower has found out over the years with children that they cannot enforce their blood policy. That is why every so often there is a news report of JWs taking their kids out of hospitals and running from the police.
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As far as blood goes, the watcthower will remain firm on blood transfusions. They may not have a talk anymore but they still have Hospital Liaison Committees which remain very active and really have become the experts for the blood issue. They give presentations to doctors at hosptials about the blood stand and what alternative care is acceptable. In my area there is an HLC meeting this weekend. Blood is still very important, it is just handled now by and handful of elders in the area.
I don't think they will change their stance on apostates. Just my opinion but they have control of it now anyway. There is not some massive outflow of JWs due to apostacy. They lose more to being disfellowshipped for alcohol and sex than they ever do to apostacy. I don't really read into that article other than it was another boring watchtower study to have to sit through. Most JWs will not listen to apostates and that is the way they like it.
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Strange situation
by Gorbatchov inhi folks,.
the rank and file is now in a strange situation.. it is clear that the jw leadership is in for a huge change.
the type / anti type change makes clear that they make a u-turn.. it's clear that with this changes the current doctrine are temporary.
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***w10 9/15 p.8 par.7 Earnestly Seek Jehovah’s Blessing ***
We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.
p.27: "Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?" "The slave thus deserves our complete trust"
Ah well, about that, now he hasn't appointed them over his belongings so maybe we shouldn't trust them..
Watchtower July 15, 2013 Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?
18 In view of the foregoing, what can we conclude? When Jesus comes for judgment during the great tribulation, he will find that the faithful slave has been loyally dispensing timely spiritual food to the domestics. Jesus will then delight in making the second appointment—over all his belongings.