at the corporate meeting david splane discusses the use and misuse of types/antitypes.. the main qualifier of a type is that an account must be represented in the scriptures as a. type of some future event.. he quoted schroeder who said if an account isnt explained in the scriptures as a type than you.
shouldnt use the event as a type.. splane summed up his talk by saying if the bible is silent - we must be silent.. but they go right on celebrating the 100 years from 1914 which was determined by improperly.
going beyond anything written in the bible about nebuchadnezzars tree dream.. the bible specifically refers to the immense tree as representing nebuchadnezzar.. daniel explained it and that should be the end of the matter.. .
@startrekangel, JWS eventually will start saying that in Noah's day God limited their time to 120 years and apply it to themselves. 1914 + 120 gives you 2034.
They have already referenced this as an option in the 12/15/2003 watchtower here in paragraph 6,7.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2003923?q=noah+120+years&p=par
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I find it funny that ex witnesses get more worked up and excited about these things prior to them happening than active witnesses. They always think some hammer is gonna drop and then the organization is going to dissolve. It's like JWs always thinking their is going to be an announcement that the great tribulation has started at every major event. No one ever gets what they want.
calling all tos, tng, ds9, voyager, or enterprise fans, what's your favorite serries and why?
and what's your favorite episode and why?.
(too many choices on netflix for me to decide which to watch right now).
I grew up watching star trek the next generation but became more interested in deep space 9. Voyager got boring and I never watched enterprise. Sorry about favorite episodes, I don't really remember them. Start at episode 1, the beauty of netflix.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Don't forget how many people will say if they make any change and only after they make it, "I always thought there was something wrong with that, Jehovah has blessed us with the correct understanding."
it seems like the society has been desperately seeking ways to cut costs and boost reviniew (jw.org, kingdom hall programs, etc) over the past four or five years.
is this because donations are actually down?
or have they been preparing themselves for these lawsuits?
Well the real question is not how many lawsuits can they absorb but how many would they have to pay. So far these headlines are just headlines, they very well could end up winning in the appeals and pay nothing.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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In all seriousness I don't think there is anything that would really test a JWs faith. I remember when they changed the generation teaching in 1995, there was really no shake up. Sure there were people here and there but no mass exodus. I bet they could present the trinity as a true doctrine and most JWs would accept it.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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1914, they just had a part 2 weeks ago on how to explain it during the service meeting. As restated repeatedly they can hang onto that until at least 2034. Changes that could be a test of faith, perhaps, everyone should partake at the memorial. 144,000 is not literal. I expect nothing exciting from this zone visit at all. Just commenting to comment.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Londo111 by far the most accurate comment yet lol
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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I think it will be boring, uneventful, and a waste of time. One elder asked in a group if anyone had a clue what they were going to do at the zone visit. He had no idea, and multiple elders couldn't even come up with the length of time it was going to be. No one knows anything. Don't get your hopes up.
i was talking to an uber dub friend last night who lives in the san diego area.
he knew nothing of the $13.5 million dollar law suit.
when i tried to tell him that this is a systemic problem, and that this could perhaps be the tip of the ice burgh.
Prepare that if this does catch legs, JWs will only say it is Satan attacking Jehovah's organization.
