We were certainly much more "determined" back in the 80s growing up. Field service on holidays, during terrible weather were all done without questioning the sanity of it. We had to after all, the end was so close. As a congregation we very close, always having picnics and socializing. The generations teaching in 1995 was the first time I ever questioned anything. I sat there at the study and realized they ran out of time, there was no new information. Maybe it had something to do with everyone as well because the closeness of the congregation eventually dissipated. I used to have so much fun at assemblies, hanging with friends at the meeting, social events with the congregation, but times changed.
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Why would you want to wake up before the 90s?
by John Aquila inif you were a jw in the late 70s into the late 80s you might have been one of those brothers or sisters that just happened to be in the right kingdom hall and with the right people.
during that time being a jw wasnt too bad if you were able to establish the right connections.
a person could pioneer for a while and be appointed as a ministerial servant in a year or two and within 5 years you could be an elder in your twentys.
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Average Age of this Forum?
by Garrett inheyo!.
i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.
i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..
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Something tells me 1914...
by Monsieur inafter todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.
and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.
the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.
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I posted about this awhile ago. I think all they will do is change when the last days started. 1914 will remain when Satan was cast down and Jesus took the throne and inspected religions and picked the bible students. But the last days will be changed to a future event say 9/11/01 or whatever so it appears that last days just started and we are very close to the end. But I don't think any changes will be made to 1914 for at least 25-30 years. -
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The present Governing Body will rule the U.S.A.
by John Aquila ini havent gone to meetings in about 1 year and a half.
one of my neighbors who is a jw-lady told me that the co on the last visit said that its very likely that right after armageddon (which is just around the corner) the present governing body members will be in charge of the united states since they are familiar with the culture.
and that the apostles and early christians will be in charge of areas like china.
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I assume they will be in charge from heaven? What about the Governing Body of the 1970s? Or the 1980s? Those guys get what antartica? -
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Any news about the Watchtower's Toxic Waste Dump cleanup?
by VM44 inthis is from 2011. http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.
is there any recent news concerning the toxic waste cleanup?.
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4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28
by Atlantis inwe thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.
click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).
.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.
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The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.
this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.
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I posted on another thread that these lawsuits mean nothing until they lose at the Supreme Court. They have yet to pay out from a court case and even if they do they constantly have donations coming in. They have fold their real estate and are actually buying different real estate. Their billion dollars from buildings in New York make them very solvent. There is no slow bleed of followers and the organization will be here long after all of us are dead. -
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The multitude that no man can number
by SonoftheTrinity inhow can protection from destruction at armageddon be solely with the jehovah's witnesses when the great multitude is one that no man could number while the jehovah's witnesses put great effort into cooking statistics of how many jws there are worldwide?
the unscriptural scare tactics they use are blatantly insulting to anyone who can read a bible.
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Am I the only one who reads Revelation 20:5 that the resurrection of those who would have an earthly hope, don't get resurrected until after the 1000 year reign? If that's the case, there's no way they can be counted as the great crowd I know the watchtower says they "come to life" meaning they gain perfection but read the verses.
Revelation 20:4,5 - 4 And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to judge. Yes, I saw the souls* of those executed* for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand.+ And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ+ for 1,000 years. 5 (The rest of the dead+ did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
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What if we could bring down the WBTS?
by derangedjdub inwhat would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?
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What if we could bring down the WBTS?
by derangedjdub inwhat would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?
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As someone already brought up, they already believe that they WILL be brought down. So them getting brought down would just make them meet in basements and private homes, self fulfilling their doctrine, making them even more devout. Even when armageddon didn't come like it was supposed to, they would just form new opinions and doctrines to explain it. They would probably become a full fledged religion 50 years after it was brought down with all new doctrines and ideas.