@simon it was certainly a broad statement. So I will be more specific. If one is against all abortions no matter what, they don’t care about the following. A woman raped that doesn’t want the child. Incest causing pregnancy. A woman that may die if the fetus is not terminated. A fetus that will never be able to be functional due to a genetic disorder and the parents would prefer to terminate. And like you said forced prostitution which i would classify as rape. If you read my prior comments, I don’t think abortion is good. I don’t glorify it and I don’t think it should be happening past viability. I just prefer we keep our freedoms. There was already a post about what to do with men that get women pregnant. Eliminating one freedom will now lead to eliminating more freedoms.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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@joey jojo we don’t live in a society where people care about walking in other peoples shoes. We don’t live in a society where people can let something they disagree with happen that has no bearing on their lives. We live in a society where someone’s beliefs or opinions should be forced on others. In this topic, you either accept abortion or you don’t. If you do accept abortions you accept that babies will be eliminated that could have lived a full life. If you don’t accept abortions, you either don’t care about any circumstance that could warrant an abortion or most circumstances. In this situation you don’t care about the negative consequences that not aborting the baby would cause. This is such a touchy topic and in reality there will never be agreement.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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@seabreeze while your question wasn’t directed at me about 12 week babies being aborted, I will give my perspective. First I don’t think any abortion is the moral thing or even a good thing. But since these are only MY views and opinions, I do believe freedom is more important than them. I like living in a country where freedoms prevail as opposed to someone else’s morals and opinions being pushed on others. I like freedoms that I disagree with. I like freedoms that if they are taken away it will have no change in my life. I am a man and banning abortions will not alter my life whatsoever. But I like freedom. Therefore I support the option for women to obtain an abortion prior to what I accept as viability from the medical field. I am not making an argument, it is what I accept as part of society. I know we disagree on this.
I also know that brings up why can’t we murder anyone then. From my point of view since the baby was never born and has no recollection of anything prior to viability, it is not murder. Again I know we disagree on this.
I know I am not going to go out and help unwanted children. I know I am not going to go out and spend time helping neglected children that would have been aborted. I’m not going to search for families that have children that they would have aborted and can’t afford and give them money. Therefore I am not going to take my own moral high ground and try to eliminate this option for others that has been around for longer than I am alive while knowing I would do nothing to help with what this change could cause.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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@seabreeze i see this is headed in no direction. Again as I said, if no abortions ever is your stance, there are millions that agree with that.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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@anony mous, the most premature baby ever to survive was at 21 weeks. As science moves so do our laws. So then make the cutoff 20 weeks.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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@seabreeze Viability before 22 weeks is zero. There is no dependability. The body cannot depend on anything and still survive at that stage. Every example you give is after the person being born and they have a very high level of viability. I only proposed abortions before there is any chance of a life ever functioning on its own. If your answer is i don’t believe abortion is ever acceptable, that is fine. There are millions that agree with you.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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Viability is no matter what you do the fetus wont survive. In medicine that is 22-24 weeks. To take all guessing out of the equation, I would say make the cutoff 21 weeks.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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This isn’t directed at anyone specifically. I put out there already I don’t have a problem with abortion before viability. I am interested to hear anyones views on why they do have a problem with that. I am not going to argue my viewpoint. Looking to hear anyones opposing but peaceful reasons.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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And if the opposing party had done the same to get their picks on SCOTUS, treason cries would be everywhere. In any case I don’t know why I posted as this was only going to lead to an argument. I can only vote as I see fit as everyone else who disagrees with me can.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned by US Supreme Court!
by Simon ini know there was a leak a few weeks back, but this really does seem to have come out of the blue.. the anomaly was the original decision.
it clearly had no basis in law or the constitution, and was a flimsy, ridiculous ruling.
plus the whole thing was based on a fraudulent case in the first place.. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61928898.
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I believe an abortion is acceptable up until viability. After that I have no problem with restrictions. This is like arguing trinity or no trinity, god or no god. Everyone has their mind made up. This is not a decision rules by the popular opinion of the people. It was done using tricks to get certain people into SCOTUS. There are flip sides to every coin and one day the will of the majority will prevail.