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  Prediction: no more changes for a long while

  by slimboyfat in

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  i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.

  so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.

  maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.

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  I notice everyone keeps speculating about 1914. Why drop it while any of the current governing body are alive? The overlapping generation covers all of them to their death. That's a problem for the governing body 4.0
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  Covid Vaccine

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i may be mistaken, but wasn’t there a governing body video where one of them said something along the lines of you don’t trust that the vaccines are safe do you really believe that the governing body is the faithful slave?

  perhaps i imagined this but i thought something like this was said.

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  Yes if you watch from the 2-5 minute mark. He questions whether your trust that Jehovah is running the organization? And then says do you think Jehovah would allow everyone to get a harmful vaccine. If you watch it, it’s very coercive.
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  Covid Vaccine

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i may be mistaken, but wasn’t there a governing body video where one of them said something along the lines of you don’t trust that the vaccines are safe do you really believe that the governing body is the faithful slave?

  perhaps i imagined this but i thought something like this was said.

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  I found what I was looking for. 2021 governing body update number 9
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  Covid Vaccine

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i may be mistaken, but wasn’t there a governing body video where one of them said something along the lines of you don’t trust that the vaccines are safe do you really believe that the governing body is the faithful slave?

  perhaps i imagined this but i thought something like this was said.

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  I may be mistaken, but wasn’t there a governing body video where one of them said something along the lines of you don’t trust that the vaccines are safe do you really believe that the governing body is the faithful slave? Perhaps I imagined this but I thought something like this was said.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  @ExBethelitenowPIMA

  When I first was going through what you are, I didn't know where to end up. Finally I decided, I just don't know. Maybe there is something after we die, maybe there isn't. I will find out, or won't, after I'm dead. I do believe there is a greater power than us. But I don't hold to this idea that we know what the power is doing, did, does or will do. Granted you were/are much more into the religion more than I ever was. Being raised as a JW, it never gave me some relief, or security. It was always very trying, difficult, embarrassing at times to be involved. No "blessing" ever happened to me that was supposed to happen because I gave up fun for theocratic activities. All I ended up with was wasted time. So there is the aspect that you have to go through that I did not. I didn't have this sense of difficulty leaving and genuinely don't know how hard that must be for you and anyone else that did. I had relief and you have despair. I probably can't understand the apprehension that must cause.
  
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  Has anybody ever heard of this in their local area

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard of a jw wedding that:.

  (a)wasn’t done in a kh, and was performed by an elder.

  (b)the ceremony was done on a sunday.. i find this surprising for 2 reasons.

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  When I got married it was not in a kingdom hall. An elder married us. Another elder said "its so much easier when it's not in a kingdom hall. There are so many rules we have to ask when it is." He was glad we didn't.
  
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

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  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  I think as EXJWs everyone gets lumped into the same category as we were when we were PIMO. Many JWs enjoy field service. They are retired and have nothing else to do. They have no job, and have nothing else to do. Even the ones that don't enjoy service believe that you still have to do as much preaching work as possible in order to obtain everlasting life. The org and elders are still going to push that they should be going out in service as much as possible. It will still work like always. The only people this benefits are PIMOs, PIMQ and those that are inactive or irregular. They will now be able to check the box every month. This will benefit the ORG in the annual report as they will be able to report new all time highs in publishers.
  
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  2. friends

  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  It will hide the decline in the ministry but increase the number of active publishers. The numbers game then appears that Jehovah is blessing the organization as always. Also the more active publishers there are, the more likely they can get more donations. Donations in the end are what matter the most.
  
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  About quiting hours

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i'm thinking: can a jw be happy that the hour rapport quits?

  can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?

  knowing it was one of the control systems of the local elders and co?.

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  This is a dream come true for JWs. It's a great marketing decision by the organization. Their publisher numbers will go up and they can use that number as evidence that Jehovah is blessing the new arrangement.
  
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  "A good REPORT invigorates the bones." (Proverbs 15:30) 🤣🤣🤣

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday's annual meeting "report" was soooooooooooo invigorating!.

  memories:.

  km 1/97 p. 7 question box - why should we report our field service activity promptly each month?

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  I bet you are LOL! This is a dream come true for JWs. So much for the preaching work needing to "speed up" all these years! Sorry to the last two bethel layoffs, it in fact wasn't because of the preaching work speeding up that reassignments were needed. We just didn't have the money, but all you imbeciles believe whatever we tell you LOL.