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  Seriously, Why Can’t Jehovah’s Witness Women Wear Pants?

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  i found this.

  http://jwvictims.org/2014/02/05/seriously-why-cant-jehovahs-witness-women-wear-pants/.

  seriously, why cant jehovahs witness women wear pants?.

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  Stirred

  Agreed. When I was studying I was in corporate world and often wore attractive pant suits and came to meetings from work in them.  I was eventually called to back room by two elders and I had a hard time with the discussion on my suits.  Put me back aa year or more before I would baptize.  I concluded I either leave or try to vpbe humble. Is it not too much to ask. Eventually I stopped wearing pant suits for work then left corporate after being baptized....to go to grad school.  Bones are there, just in process of changing years of muddled thoughts and feelings.
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  Can we be deleted as an appointed man, or disfellowshipped without meeting in a committee?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  so, i am genuinely wondering if the above is possible nowdays?.

  with the changes in the power structure of co's, the changes in gb directives re never questioning "jehovah's appointed channel etc", i wonder if "disciplne can be given out in absence?.

  i know that several elders in our cong have little "discussions" about my apparant slackening off, and would love to take action against me... they have tried to chat with me but that has been shot down.. so i wonder if they could just make a decision without me being present for it?

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  Dear Stuck......

  So they have unilaterally removed you from position but not as an active JW. Right?  Family and friends may question and this could be opportunity to put it out there that based on your trying to find your way with all the changes, they deleted you fir not unquestioningly accepting and promoting all the new changes..... or however you would explain it so you don't come off as apostate but as a sincere brother who must internally comprehend and believe before you can promote, etc.

  Good can come from this.  Think of the pressure that will be off you now.

  
  

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  All this new JW.org stuff is hurting my brain

  by Nosferatu in

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  2. friends

  so i just watched the singing cart video.

  i literally cannot describe how i felt watching that.. growing up as a jw was serious business.

  we had to take the preaching work seriously, watch our conduct, give a good witness by our actions, and be on our best behaviour to ensure we made it through the great tribulation.. when i was a child, i had dreams of being a cartoonist.

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  Stirred

  Many in 40s 50s still not used to Internet and not really fishing for info. My husband is one of those. He is only of recent years basically navigating to Netflix, news, some email. I still have to bbasically guide him. I showed him YouTube .  He still thinks it is the Truth nut we are talking and he is open as long as I dont show him any angry, obviously lying, over the top stuff.
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. beliefs

  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  Dissappointed. It shocked my doubting husband who previously liked Cedars videos and more level approach.  This prank put him back several steps in credibility.  I can see logicalo points on both sides but I do believe a better approach is to focus on always being respectful, logical, mature, expose the fallacies and hypocrisy of other side but don't lower your standards.  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  Stirred

  Can't wait.
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  Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. friends

  so, i have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife.

  thanks to tv.jw.org i now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.. our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting.

  derision at the wooden delivery of the gb.

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  Stirred

  Interesting points.  I want my kids to be critical thinkers, authentic, compassionate.  I feel we can learn "pearls" of truth and good lessons from anyone. I am fading and my kids know why.  At this point I am still visiting around in new/old town occasionally and reviewing videos, researching, reading.

  My kids enjoy the white board animations but are bored with TV.  Husband thought there were some relevant points about education - have a plan so not to get into deep in debt.

  i think reviewing any of these programs  with a critical eye will help kids and I refine our discernment (aka baloney detectors).  It will help us to become authentic wherever we wish to visit and attend.  I am fading and showing kids that I take commitments serious and don't leave quickly and trash it all without careful checking.

  As I/we fade, we are reaffirming what we stand for, our vision and what future will look like in terms of worship, service to community, core beliefs for our Multi-generational viewpoint and security. Have a plan or plan to fail.  I think we have had a losing, painful plan and don't want any in my family to repeat our mistakes.

  I am not raising fake kids, but ones who are cautious due too past and ones who will be more likely to test and look at evidence.  Clearly, TV show shows dim light at best as they keep changing position on rules and conscience matters which is not really food of any kind.  GB opinions are still just opinions.

  I also watch so that I can honestly reply to friends and family that I am in touch and have good question and for pure curiosity. I can't always take it.
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  making meetings more interesting

  by openminded in

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  do you keep falling asleep during meetings and assemblies?

  long and boring home studies?

  > here's a way to change all of that.. > > .

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  Thanks for the laugh!
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Ultimately it was Ray Franz's book that helped me make my mind up that there indeed were problems all the way to the top. 

  I Read COC but can't seem to get through ISOCF with all the changes and fires I am now managing in my still-awakening and mid-fade plans. Initially though, I stumbled on e-watchman and his original Paradise Cafe where I learned about UN. It made a huge dent and impression but spouse and elder friends tried to reason me back in and I decided to stick it out and try harder while family was dealing with health crisis. I needed faith and friends and with all the crises, I put my trust in J and head down to submit to my spiritual headship as a dutiful wife, sister, etc....it lasted many years...
  

  When lack of love and hypocrisy became truly attacking and damaging to my family, despite doing all I could with balancing service, work, family, I turned to Internet again and found an abundance of shocking info that I previously would not dare to read. JWSurvey, JWfacts and this site also helped....Barbara Anderson, Silent Lambs. It all helps/ed but, at times, it can be overwhelming when compounded with confusion, anger, regret, shame, friends, family, kids, spouse.  Breathing and working my way through what seems like a grieving cycle but  not exactly.  

  I am Implementing positive healing, seeking contentment in my authenticity, and restructuring my self-esteem.  I find theses topics vital and lacking on all these sites. It is a bit too much negative and depressing sometimes, thus I am working on a better plan to incorporate healthy, upbuilding habits and treatments.

  
  

  peace
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  Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!

  i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.

  they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.

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  Stirred

  I am totally with you on this.  I am trying to stabilize myself with positive messages and upbeat motivational reading.  Truly, even this site, at times, and ones like it sometimes cause me upset though no comparison to JWs.  

  I am raw from all the jw negative and find that i am so sensitive to it that the reaction I feel is tremendous agitation and or borderline anger.  I am literally getting "sick" of the boasters, guilt-tripping, shallowness, doom, judging ........I am starting to hate it and yet, i lack healthy replacement of structure at home and kids still miss it - aspects....like friends, singing, feeling like they are pleasing God by being there.

  
  

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  Hi everyone, this is my first post.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everyone, this is my first post.

  i was contacted by the witnesses in1965, baptized in that same year at age 15. i was appointed an elder in 1975 and served as an elder for 20 years..

  it hasnt been long since i learn ttatt and when i totally woke up.

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  Stirred

  Hi John,

  Thank you for sharing your interesting story.

  i'm having to start over too in many ways, including a big financial hit. I find I'm scrambling to get back to work and rebuild after our savings ran out due to business downturn, irresponsible spouse and my not taking better protective measures (it was myinheritance and  savings).  It's the protective measures I fault myself for and perhaps to  seeing an attorney earlier to stop him enough to realize I mean no.

  It is hard to go down like that but try to focus on what you still have -.  some $ cushion, knowledge to rebuild, release from shallow connections, and sounds like a budding new social network.  You know who you are.  Money is a tool, security, fun.  Enjoy the process of rebuilding your life and your bank balance. 

  Peace,

  Stirred