Thank you Phantom and imallgrowedup-I will keep trying! Sorry...it really is worth reading...Can I send it to one of you in a PM or e-mail?
mobbie
hope my attachment works- i will keep trying or perhaps someone can help me get this official letter posted if i fail...i just got this in the mail .
yesterday and finally opened it today.
i did not write to them!
Thank you Phantom and imallgrowedup-I will keep trying! Sorry...it really is worth reading...Can I send it to one of you in a PM or e-mail?
mobbie
hope my attachment works- i will keep trying or perhaps someone can help me get this official letter posted if i fail...i just got this in the mail .
yesterday and finally opened it today.
i did not write to them!
hope my attachment works- i will keep trying or perhaps someone can help me get this official letter posted if i fail...i just got this in the mail .
yesterday and finally opened it today.
i did not write to them!
Ok HELP...how do I attach this thing from "My documents"? I have tried to upload and attach and am getting nowhere...
thanks, mobbie
hope my attachment works- i will keep trying or perhaps someone can help me get this official letter posted if i fail...i just got this in the mail .
yesterday and finally opened it today.
i did not write to them!
Hope my attachment works- I will keep trying or perhaps someone can help me get this official letter posted if I fail...I just got this in the mail
yesterday and finally opened it today. I DID NOT WRITE TO THEM! I had repeatedly asked my reinstating husband
and his family about this however. Interesting....very interesting...What do you think?
I just LOVE the part where they say: " Rather, it is the content of the material and the faithful adherence to the bible that should impress the reader and convince him that the published article is reliable...
My skin is just crawling right now...
mobbie
galatians opens with the direction to not listen to opposing religious views.
it goes so far as to say that even if they (ostensibly paul and his party) or an angel from heaven presents another opinion, they must refuse to listen even then condemning the messenger as an enemy.
ironically this very obstinance is condemned among the jews in the bible, when they supposedly refused to listen to the new direction from the christians,jesus and even the angels who according to the story announced this new faith's arrival.
Good thread!
Why is it that the very mind that we have been given to reason, create and learn with so easily shuts down and shuts off? I find it fascinating
that our minds seem to purposefully search out strict boundaries (i.e. religious doctrines etc.) in which to hopefully navigate life in a richer more
fulfilling way, while hopefully pleasing our "creator", "source" or whatever we are driven to please.
We were given incredible minds in which to reason, and if those minds are closed, how can we discern? How can we learn? I do not see this
pleasing God, our "creator" or our "source" or whatever it is that you happen to believe in.
"A closed mouth gathers no foot"...in like manner,
"A closed mind gathers nothing"
Just my 2cents...
mobbie
the following is an interesting new arcticle on the freeminds site:.
http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/bible.htm.
it gives interesting information on jw bible interpretation gymnastics regarding verses on jesus, showing that the wt in effect rejects the plain teachings of the bible regarding jesus.
Great topic and posts James et al,
As usual, I am being completely challenged in mind, heart and spirit. I can hear a limb cracking and see some anthropromorphic microorganisms quietly dying...
I look forward to more, and the new topic!
mobbie
bush headed toward worst record.
for job growth in 58 years.
(average monthly growth in employment during presidency)
Preach it brother...AMEN!
mobbie
i run into sister k. at her office sometimes.
everytime i do we 'get into it' about how awful things are in the.
organization.
One of the things I noticed immediately when I attended a few meetings with my reinstating dub-hub was how absolutely miserable and depressed all the women in the congregation looked! They all had this far off "save me from this hell" look. I haven't gone back since.
mobbie
first, and most important: thanks to all those who read my introduction-post last saturday, and especial thanks to those who replied.
like many who have been disfellowshipped (and especially those raised in the org) i've been dragged through icy waves of agonizing hurt and anger; often followed by times of peace and letting go; only to be hit by another turbulent and bitter bout of animosity and grief.
the tides do run deep, don't they.
I am bringing this bttt because this is exactly what I was just trying to explain to my reinstating husband. I think it is extremely pertinent to bring up again, especially in light of the Elizabeth Smart movie that was just aired last week. I agree with JT's commentary on this "phenomena" that I myself have been watching, and want absolutely no part of. I know that there are several different religions of the world that practice various forms of this phenomena, but few to the extreme of the WTBTS. How can we "Love one another as I have loved you" in shunning family or the people we are supposed to love AS ourselves? Do we shun ourselves? I hate it that they use the terminology of "Tough Love" in regards to this behavior! This has got to be the FARTHEST thing from Christian love I have ever (pun intended) witnessed....
mobbie
ok i rarely ask questions but hey i might as well do this too.
but to make life a lot easier for you i will put tham all in one thread when you first came here what did you expect?what were you looking for?did you find it and if so how?if you were looking for information how did you look for it - ask a question?
wander through the threads?
My story is very close to "jgnat". Almost exact. For this reason, I have not really felt much of a freedom to participate because I am NOT an ex-JW. I have found that if you are NOT an ex-JW, you are basically ignored. However, I have read so much good info on this site it has been well worth visiting time and again. I have tended to be overwhelmed by a lot of the info here, as it is all pretty new and downright scarry to me. But I would rather be informed than ignorant any day. I have come to realise that my second marriage of only three years to my "almost reinstated" husband is most likely going to end. It is very sad and depressing to me that this organisation destroys so many individuals and families. I appreciate all who HAVE taken the time to respond to me, and the few who welcomed me. I will be leaving soon because I know enough now of what the future holds for me and my son, and to keep returning is just too overwhelming for me. I am very appreciative that this site is here, and will highly recommend it to anyone who has an interest.
mobbie