Always curious.
Phae
ever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
Always curious.
Phae
i was thinking today about how i no longer have to fear the attack of satan against the jws.
i used to fear being rounded up and beaten by mobs.
seeing my family tortured.
Re: Anyone Here Used to Fear Persecution?
Yes, for being a JW ... when the great tribulation hit... or before. Everytime they'd discuss WWII or Malawi or Rawanda I feared being murdered for my faith.
When I was a child in the 70s, I sat at the KH as they read and discussed what was going on in Malawi, encouraging the letter writing campaign.
Nice thoughts for an 8 year old. No wonder I have JWPSTD.
Phae
was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?
and also, how did you end up leaving?.
Would bi-curious count?
not looking for another religion as i'm completely atheist at this point, but the uu's do seem to have a community spirit about them and don't seem to be so cultish.
i lived across from one of their churches (before my recent move) and went to one of their services.
it didn't have the rigidity of the dubs, and seemed to be somewhat open minded.
I attended a few services at the UU in town recently, and appreciate what they do in the community, and their welcoming attitude to all peoples, no matter what orientation they have in life, belief, or otherwise.
I have a very good friend who introduced me to their principles years ago on a little card she carries in her wallet. I read them and thought, "Wow, I already embrace those ideals!" Basic laws of living and cooperation, IMHO.
Last November they had a Thanksgiving dinner for those without family, older couples, and whoever wanted to attend for whatever reason, etc. As a holiday loner, I attended the dinner and had a grand time meeting new people (like a Dutch couple in their mid-80s) and feeling like part of something that day; something I haven't experienced my entire life. One void filled — check! I plan to go back this year.
The services are diverse and interesting. I haven't gone enough to figure out what kind of a spiritual connection I have there, other than just being around a group of open-minded people who can help me expand my horizons and help me drop some of the JW baggage I carry. I always feel funny when churches have the few minutes of "say hello and shake your neighbor's hand" thing... because of my introversion and it feels forced. Anyway, different strokes...
As I grow I'm becoming more open to these experiences. I'll enjoy attending again... it's hard getting out of bed on a Sunday morning when you *don't have to*. 25 years of mandatory 3 meetings a week as a JW will do that to you.
You can always visit just to check it out. YMMV.
Phae
i have watched the movie divergent.. wow what an amazing film that highlights the value of not just conforming or accepting what is put in front of us!.
the parallels to "the truth" are amazing!.
thoughts anyone?.
I haven't, but I'll put it on my watch list.
Phae
i did not know anything about ttatt while attending the meetings.. .
ttatt=the truth about the truth..
At least 10 years. I kept going back to see if I could reason it all out.
I couldn't.
Phae
one of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.
he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..
Heard the doorbell ring this morning. JW hubby answered ~
I asked, "did you get an invitation?" They were working our neighborhood.
Phae
there is something all too familiar about it, something that sickens the stomach and reminds us how low and prejudiced evil minds can go.. those who divide humans up in order to weaken and conquer them will stop at nothing if not counterfeit reasoning to justify their evil.. .
the arguments made in the past and the arguments made in the present have a familiar ring to them and the false clanger is a note of warning!.
"if you give women the right to vote, you're just doubling the vote of their husband.".
Terry,
Amen to the OP.
Phae
there was a sister in my congregation that signed up to aux pioneer one month to put in 60 hours.
we couldn't figure out why she was never at the arrangements, but yet she said she got in her time early in the month.
we found out later that we wrote a letter that took her an hour.
When I was a teen, my best friend's mom was driving us home from our morning territory. As she drove along, she grabbed a pair of current WT & Awakes and stuck them into the windshield facing outward.
Her reason: Time could continue to be counted as she was "advertising" the truth via the branding and covers to anyone who happened to see the magazines as we passed by.
My, with reasoning like that, you could easily get pioneer hours just by driving around, right?
Phae
i am sure there has been a post about this subject, however being a recent addition to the network i don't know how to do a search.
and i'm sure new folks have joined since then.
i am really curious of how others came to know ttatt.. for me is was a real bad experience with one elder after another.
Back in the mid-90s I got online with one of those "Free Hours" Internet CDs. Dial-up. Remember that?!
Found a bunch of neat little search engines and just typed in JWs.
Freeminds came up with the most intriguing story about what happened in the 80s with Ray Franz and Bethel.
I read with the most curious mind. With each click of a new link to another xjw site, my raised-in JW worldview began to crumble.
Found this site in 2000.
Phae