Vidqun, Thanks for that.
Flipper, we learn how much alike we all are, don't we?
Joker, I have always admired and been thankful to your family. Your wife was a great liberal JW role model. I hope you have found peace and happiness outside the org.
i spent the majority of my growing years in the crystal lake area, with a watchful eye under the tutleledge of the grownups whom i thought had it all figured out.
milkovetch, penkava, redman, gordon, and sterne, before the congregations split into 2 in the late 90s, i was already enamored into the truth with total belief and readying for the revelation book persecution.
then your families crumbled with red letters surfacing all around.. during and after a storm of controversies, scandals, and the like, i realized all people are people and prone to bad decisions and mistakes.
Flipper, we learn how much alike we all are, don't we?
Joker, I have always admired and been thankful to your family. Your wife was a great liberal JW role model. I hope you have found peace and happiness outside the org.
People who weave themselves into the fabric of our lives.
To all JWNer's, that means you, too. Thanks.
The study in humanity is fascinating here, with a shared past.
Every contribution here, even when not acknowledged, touches someone in some way.
Simon and Ang, thanks again for this platform. It means a lot to so many.
I know the hours you put into its upkeep and maintenance are numerous and a labor of love. That's what real passion is. You do it no matter what. I've paid my own Web site bills for the same. Hosting, downloads, content creation. I'm thousands in the red, but still do it anyway despite pirates and content thieves. Site scrapers, and the new generation that begs for money to fund every project.
Your thousands of unpaid hours that invest themselves into the souls that you reach by happenstance are appreciated by me.. Regular visitors, skittish newcomers. Curious. Angry. Search engine traffic. You serve them all. Without compensation. Asking for funds. You'd do it anyway. I understand. And tip my hat. Thank you for this site for so many years, despite the competition.
Thanks for your continued presence (ts).
16 years in,
Phae
Mouthy
Farkel
Ros
Oompa
and others.
Eventually all of us.
RIP
Your contributions have enriched my life.
Thank you.
This is one unique journey we can all relate to.
with the proliferation of social media, more people have been reached by the watchtower organization than ever before in history.
it sure took them long enough!.
at the same time, anti-jw activism has caught fire to counterbalance the propaganda.. there are all sorts of activists operating "out there" using books, videos, podcasts, facebook, and incidental un-witnessing to puncture and perforate the false message and counterfeit codswallop of the governing body.. __________.
Discussion groups (especially this one) led the way long before all the rest.
I became part of JWD around 2000. It and sites like it did a great job and filled a great need.
I ran a successful Web site as well during web 1-2.0.
On top our work, like generations before, others stand on top of us.
A quality article with great research is passed by for a recycled bullet-point listicle.
We have entered a new era on the Web. Social media and crowdfunding rules along with clickbait sites and creating a following for yourself on YT with charisma and all that jazz.
Attention spans are short and opinions are like... well, you know.
Cedars gets his book funded by his groupies with their name in this book. It's just the way of the world now.
Cross-generational, and COC is pirated by a click. Nobody cares anymore. It's sad, but what the majority wants.
Maybe it will slow down when new creators find their work being given away without compensation. They'll get it when the books they write are pirated and everyone moves on to the next piranha feast.
What goes around, comes around.
hi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
any comments ?.
The new understanding will continue to be refined and goalposts moved as time goes on and nothing manifests. Thus has been the way of this cult for over 100 years.
i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.
i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.
yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.
Counting time is a human invention.
Does anyone think God is even on the same plane of measurement. The 'one who can read hearts' needs a tally to know what is being accomplished in his name?
i spent the majority of my growing years in the crystal lake area, with a watchful eye under the tutleledge of the grownups whom i thought had it all figured out.
milkovetch, penkava, redman, gordon, and sterne, before the congregations split into 2 in the late 90s, i was already enamored into the truth with total belief and readying for the revelation book persecution.
then your families crumbled with red letters surfacing all around.. during and after a storm of controversies, scandals, and the like, i realized all people are people and prone to bad decisions and mistakes.
I spent the majority of my growing years in the Crystal Lake area, with a watchful eye under the tutleledge of the grownups whom I thought had it all figured out. Milkovetch, Penkava, Redman, Gordon, and Sterne, before the congregations split into 2 in the late 90s, I was already enamored into the truth with total belief and readying for the Revelation Book persecution. then your families crumbled with red letters surfacing all around.
During and after a storm of controversies, scandals, and the like, I realized all people are people and prone to bad decisions and mistakes. Teens marrying decades ahead, family couples splitting for youngsters, and the usual adultery and whatnot convinced me JWs were no better or worse than anyone else. At first I was crushed at how it could happen in God's true home, but then allowed my doubts to grow and ended up on the outside, perhaps with a more even perspective on humankind and what people really want despite the fairy tales told all around them.
I am no better than them all, only once I believed I was below them. Now I know better.
update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.
i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.
- may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.
So sorry to hear this. I hope there is something much better after.
link is here.. line outapr 18, 2013. .
"an incomplete and disorderly catalog of prince's dirty songs".
by kelly o. .
A U T Omatic
Just took me almost 20 years to catch up.
hi people,.
i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).
1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.
1) were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?
Raised-in.
2) when were you baptized/started seriously being with the witnesses? (Date please, i.e. 1997)
1988 at age 16.
3) when did you leave/woke up completely? (date please, i.e. 2013)
1998 at age 26.