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  Scared I'll Never be Happy Again

  by Stumbeline in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so it's' been 8 months since i was disfellowshiped.

  i moved out of my mothers house accross the country to room with a friend.

  things have been going ok, it's just strange to be so far away from everything that felt familiar, even the meetings.

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  Hairtrigger

  Hello Stumbline,

  I sympathize with how you feel. We all go through a period of self examination where we feel we are worthless. And drifting. And guilty for no apparant reason. Thats the collateral damage that accompanies giving up the former lifestyle within the cult. And it needs to be sucked up.

  Heres a poem that helped me so much that it became my pillar, my backbone. Also it made a loner out of me. Standing alone makes you the strongest.I hope you like poetry. Please read and I hope it strengthens you.

  Rudyard Kipling
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  If If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you; If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or, being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise; If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with triumph and disaster And treat those two imposters just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to broken, And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools; If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on"; If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch; If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run - Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
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  ...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  .. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

  .. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

  are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

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  Hairtrigger

  Spot on OUTLAW. Love the humour!

  HT
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  Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

  by Sapphy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

  oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

  "women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

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  Hairtrigger

  Correction of the quote

  Pray upon what meat doth this Caesar feed that he grown so great"?
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  Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

  by Sapphy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

  oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

  "women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

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  Hairtrigger

  "Elders are allowed to investigate..." Juat what are their qualifications as investigators? Have they had any experience in really "investigating" a pedophile case before with irrefutable evidence that was instrumental in convicting the felon? So what is the special qualification that allows these worms to find themselves eligible to "investigate " a case of this magnitude? And after it ha ben proven in a court of law-of-the-land? 'Pray what meat doth this Caesar feed that he is grown so great?'
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  Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting

  by Sapphy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.

  oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!

  "women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".

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  Wait a minute! Are you asking me to believe that a country that changed the face of the world and brought monarchs to their knees, is allowing a scumbag cult to chuck its jurisprudence out the door, override a judicial decision and set up a kangaroo court (affter the-proven-in the-kings-court fact) and then allow this guttersnipe, to interview his victims so that they( the victims) have to prove (to the worms who call themselves elders) that he indeed was guilty and they were innocent victims- just so they can "disfellowship"him?And is this now being condoned by the rank and file witnesses as well as the rest of the country?

  somebody please hit me on the head with a watchtower!
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  Can White JWs Have Mustaches?

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone mentioned in another thread that white jws can't have mustaches but black jws can.

  i noticed that the only governing body member with a mustache is black.

  can anyone confirm that this is an official policy?

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  Hairtrigger

  R U Kidding me? I know of CO's and DO's who have miles of the fungus on their faces .Every congregation I've been to has one or two mustache petes on the BOE.They would fit right in with The James Dalton gang if they were born a century and a half ago. Hell man it's only a mustache. Not an ambush!!(lol)
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  Do you think JW’s are dangerous, if yes why? If not, why?

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  personally the jws to me are not dangerous.

  on the other hand, many do think they are in fact a dangerous cult.

  why are they dangerous?.

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  They are bloody tenaciousI'll tell you that. Just ask any and all who are trying to fade.

  "Such men as they be never at hearts ease whence they behold someone happier than themselves. They (don't) think too much; Seldom they smile (in earnest) and when they do, it is to zap a sucker into their net of deceipt ; Obedient to their masters whose commands trancendeth god above. Such men are dangerous." ( with apologies to Shakespeare)
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  What On Earth Makes The Watchtower Organization Think That Inactive Ones a Would Ever Want To Go Back To The Vomit?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do they actually believe that if they tell you that you are "missed", that you will desire to return to the sheepfold?

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  Hairtrigger

  The cult's twisted indoctrination. ""Leave all else and go get back that one lost sheep"(the accepted pronounciation is - DOG), just as Jesus commanded.

  JESUS ALSO SAID THAT WHILE UNDERTAKING THIS NOBLE CHRISTIAN ENTERPRISE THE FOLLOWING IS TO BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED AND IS ABSOLUTELY ACCEPTABLE.

  "Meanwhile ram him where he lives. Don't talk to him. Don't allow his family to talk to him. Treat him like he were a scumbag. Never mind his suffering because Df'ing has emotional/ collateral damage attatched which comes with the territory and is in harmony with biblical teachings ( the FDS says so and are annointed by Jesus himself- just scroll back to 1914 and Jesus himself will confirm this ) and of course Apostates/DF'd are dogs. They always want o go back to their puke.

  Just a minute sir, nowherein the scriptures is the last two paragraphs mentioned .

  " This is new light that has been beamed upon the FDS. Another book is to be added to the bible that explains everything that is inexplicable to non-spiritual minds like yours.

  But you can't add to the books of the bible?

  Moron! didn't a recent watchtower just inform you to do and believe evrything that the FDS says even though it maynot make any sense to you? Just folow directions, stop asking questions or you'll be joining the pack of chihuhuas on this forum.
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  only JW's can analize scripture because they are spiritual

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only spiritual people can read scripture.

  may 17, 2014. dear never a jw,.

  but logic tells me we are just not on the same page, and will never agree until we are.. elder.

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  Hairtrigger

  The definition of "spiritual" is kinda elusive. If by spiritual he means religious then the most religious man lived 500 years BCE. His name was Gautama Siddhartha -the guy who invented Bhuddhism. His take was give up all material things, control and kill all fleshly desires and live a morally good life. If you followed his bilge, you would be ten thousand times more spiritual than this clown of an elder. How come the Enlightened one couldn't see what our enlightened elder sees? Oh I forgot -Paul hadn't written to the Cor: yet.-gosh I must be an idiot -he wasn't even born; I'm a total moron. His parents wouldn'tbe born for another 500 years!

  J is looking down on the entire earth and cannot see a man who teaches lives and dies practicing almost exactly what the JW's teach about being spiritual and non-materialistic. He gets passed over for a murderer turned spiritual teacher , who inturn has directly annointed our elder pal in 2014( and all Jw's) to tell us he can see what we can't. Amazing X-ray vision. Just like superman's .Can he describe and put into words how his spiritual perception is better educated to intepret the scriptures to us, and how that spirituality makes him so eloquent that he cant put into words why his intepretation is superior in meaning to the black and white understood by all who read it? Because his "spiritual vision" of the scriptures is just as fake as the born agains " speaking -in tongues" crap. Just as they can't give a reason for their transformation or explain what it exactly s for , this elder is just as gobbledegook in his.
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  Cockeyed Logic: Red Book Variety

  by Hairtrigger in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  forgive me if someone has posted this earlier.

  am still new here so hope am not repeating what may be an earlier thread.

  driving to work this morning, i mused on the eventline described in the revelation book.

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  Hairtrigger

  Forgive me if someone has posted this earlier. Am still new here so hope am not repeating what may be an earlier thread. Driving to work this morning, I mused on the eventline described in the Revelation book. Sometime before the onset of the GREAT TRIBULATION," J will PUT IT INTO THE HEARTS OF ALL WORLD RULERS TO DO AWAY WITH FALSE RELIGION". (Babylon The Great). so:

  1. How come FREE WILL takes a nose-dive with J guiding the hearts of the Beast's minions?

  2. If J can magically change the hearts of men with such flagrant ease and cruise control their thought processes, why the heck didn't this navigation kick in at Eden? During the history of man with bimbos like Hitler and Stalin and Bin Ladin to name just three? And of course the WBTS and its FDS with their false doctrines, torture of innocents and pro-pediophilia mandates?

  If this is the brand of logic the FDS is pumping out, one must be lobotomized to be still in. ( present company excepted).