Why are there two identical threads with this title? I thought my "Global Flood" post hadn't posted!
Weird.
Why are there two identical threads with this title? I thought my "Global Flood" post hadn't posted!
Weird.
i guess there are many, but what would be the strangest teaching, or "wackiest" ?.
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Global flood!
Global flood?
having recently been posting on a thread about ot moral values , which are not widely "appreciated " to say the least , i have been thinking about our modern morals about sex and reletionships , or more acurately the lack of any sexual morals todays .
i don't think that we are better off as a society which has gone so far to the do want you want , with whom you want and when you want approach to sexual ethics as we have .
i don't think that women are actually liberated by this attitude .
I was in a lapdancing club for a stag do a few years ago. I had a brief conversation with one of the ladies, before she worked out I was there under sufferance and wasn't going to pay for any "fun".
She told me that she lives in Poland, but comes and works in this club in the UK for 3 months a year and that earns her enough money to live for the rest of the year in Poland.
I didn't enjoy a single minute I spent in that club. I mean, seriously? Sitting round a table with work colleagues is not the environment I want to be in when enjoying the sight of naked ladies. It's just weird.
But I can't argue against the ladies choosing to do it for work though. I wish I could work 3 months out of 12.
watch these clips...there is no way the account of noah's ark could ever be true!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i225vcs3x0g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk1owd9y1hc.
It was fascinating.
Digest version (spoiler alert) ...
Academic at British Museum with big beard deciphered Babylonian tablet and discovered origin of biblical flood story - even has the "animals two by two".
Unlike the bible the Babylonian story describes a boat that doesn't defy physics. It was circular!
The Euphrates and Tigris flooded all the time and these large coracles might actually have been built as community lifeboats.
The program had one built 12m diameter using the instructions from the ancient tablet and it worked beautifully.
Bible writers got the story during the exile in Babylon and turned it into the ridiculous Noah version.
There were a couple of things that made me laugh watching that program:
The boats that the ark was based on were called "Guffers" and the narrator kept saying the name with such deadly seriousness. I gave a puerile snicker every time.
The other thing was that the bearded academic was called Irving. "In his quest to discover more about the Babylonians Irving has come to Berlin". Irving Berlin??? Again the narrator didn't even give a hint of a smile. He must have been a robot.
The things that interested me were:
The program wasnt trying to prove the biblical ark \ flood story at all (despite the misleading program title). Instead it was trying to prove that local flooding was behind this Babylonian story and that the bible had clearly stolen and adapted it.
The flood story and ark instructions the program was working from predated the bible by a 1,000 years and *wasn't* the epic of Gilgamesh.
All in all, I was expecting ridiculousness but didn't quite get it. It was actually rather good.
as a jehovah's witness:.
two things finally struck me:.
for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now i know in part, but then i will know fully just as i also have been fully known.. _______________________.
"The light gets brighter" makes my blood boil!!
THIS is light getting brighter
1. My name is Matt
2. My name is Matthew Richard
3. My name is Matthew Richard Hollands
SEE? None of the later statements invalidate the previous statements. They're ALL true but statement 3 is brighter light than statement 1!
And then when they talk about a sailing ship tacking... ARGH! Just: ARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!
what is the society's current view on medical marijuana?
obviously smoking is a no-no, but what about edibles, or oils (think they're called tinctures)??.
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This reminds of my meeting with the elders when I was young on the use of Poppers (Amyl Nitrate). My position was as there is no mention of sniffing poppers in the bible it must be a matter of conscience whether you do it or not. The elders disagreed but had the devil of a time proving their case, in fact I don't remember them being even remotely convincing. After all it's a) legal b) not addictive c) doesn't have lasting effects.
what specifically made you stop believing in god and the bible?
was it a steady road of doubts or it was reading one book or one major event that made you realize the bible was not what it's claimed to be?.
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It was a long period of study for me, but I did have one epiphany moment and, oddly, it was while watching "Conan the Barbarian" (the original one with Arnie).
It's the scene where Conan (barbarian) and a more civilised chap are talking about their gods. Conan says that his god Crom lives on a mountain, only respects strength etc. and the other god says his god is greater than Crom, his god is the everlasting sky and Crom lives under him.
It hit me that is exactly how the gods we are supposed to believe are real have developed. It's all about my god is better than your god. That's the driving force in the development of a deities characteristics. On top of a mountain > in the sky > above the sky for example. The gods have evolved to fill the needs of the people that believe in them.
has anyone had this line said to them when there was questioning involved?
did it irritate you because when questioning did happen that line was almost always used as a shut down to keep you from going any further and to make you feel guilty in the process?
because we're just idiotic and feeble minded human beings, so surely we can't possibly begin to question the likes of god.
"I'm not questioning god, I'm questioning YOU. You're saying that this is true, YOU prove it."
the society always speaks about all the wonderful people and characters in the bible.. they always too speak of many of them as being so humble, faithful, loyal, diligent, loving, kind, wise, merciful etc, and worthy of imitation.
also of how god blessed them followed by endless examples and reasons why we today should imitate them.. .
they also speak of how wonderful it would be to meet some of these people in the future 'new system' and have often depicted scenes where the the survivors of armageddon would be gathered around some ancient resurrected faithful asking them questions and listening to their stories of times past.
I'd like to meet the person who can catch Three hundred foxes alive in one night. On his own!
Hang on, I just remembered that it's the same person who then tied burning torches to their tails and then let them go again in the worst act of animal cruelty since the flood killed everything not in a box. Don't want to meet him any more...