recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.
there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.
so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.
"From a logical perspective lack of evidence means no more than lack of evidence. To say that lack of evidence means anything more is fallacy."
And *that* means that Jehovah, Cthulhu and Harry Potter have equal existential validity.
That means quite a lot ...
hey guys, .
i just wanted to thank you all for all of your input, support and help over the past few months.
i've decided to officially disassociate myself from the organization and move on with my life.
Good luck Garrett!
If you have dear friends with open minds who are still JW's it could be worth reaching out to them after a while has passed, because they can't reach out to you of course. I have a couple of friends who are still JW's who I meet for a drink now and then (discreetly). We don't talk religion but they get to see that I haven't turned into an amoral monster and that I'm there for them if need be.
15 years ago i joined this forum under a generic alias.. if it weren't for the fact that i have close family weaved into this tapestry of a religion i think i could have moved on long ago.. when you're connected, you're connected.. to those in the same boat, you're not alone.. we get it, and you.. hugs,.
phae.
Yep, I get it too. Most of my family are still "in", including the intelligent ones! I also wish I could discover Phizzy's silver bullet.
One of the things that really bothers me is that, the way things are set up now, even the youngest member of my family could live their whole life as a JW. The fairytale is engineered to never end.
being that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.
nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.
yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.
He sounded frightened to me. I think someone needs a hug...
Problem is with all those prickles sticking out, hugging is hard.
in 2018, cyprus goes bankrupt (again).
many of its inhabitants, lacking jobs and prospectives of a better future, emigrate to more prosperous countries.
cyprus' society is on the brink of collapse.
I thought about this when I watched the film Philomena about the Irish babies of single mums that were taken from them and forcibly adopted. I thought, what if Ireland wasn't Catholic but JW instead.
My conclusion is that the situation would have been if not the same then worse.
well, it's christmas eve afternoon here now in the uk.. traditionally a time when all the panic shopping is over, what's done is done, what you've forgotten you've forgotten, time to raise a glass (or two) and relax.. so may i wish all members/readers/posters a very happy xmas, whether you celebrate it or not, and extra 'get up and go' for 2015.. best wishes to all.. .
Happy Christmas Joe! Am I the only person still stuck at work??
new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .
if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?
or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.
Something tells me this was a drive-by dubbing.
trying to develop a good strategy for relatives still partially indoctrinated by this despicable inhumane cult.
i researched their own material and i found some good info on how they don't mind control anyone.
the following unedited information was sourced from their february 15, 1994 watchtower p. 5-7. i've highlighted some sentences that we all know are lies and a distortion of the reality of their community:.
I like to use "High Control Religion" instead of cult. They don't go into auto-shutdown because you've said they're a religion and then there's a chance you can start discussing the high control bit.
by looking at cdn court cases.. i knew i would find him if i persisted.. there is clear evidence, in my view, that beginning some time, probably in early 2010, but perhaps earlier, that mr. jones developed a delusional disorder with a primary religious focus.
mr. jones accounting of the development of his belief that he is jesus christ, is consistent with the known development of psychotic disorders.
mr. jones describes a period of time where he felt that he had some greater purpose or was meant for something important although he was unable to really identify what that was.
Jesus would be totally rubbish at hide and seek.
as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.
im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.
http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.
Re: The dinosaur carving, here's an article:
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/stegosaur-claim.htm
For my money it's not a dinosaur. If it isn't meant to represent a real animal maybe a rhino, like the bird carving also on the pillar, then it's some kind of fantasy beast like the toothy monkey wearing a wig which is also carved on the same pillar. :)
