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  Tv.jw.org - Average Jdub reaction? I'm getting NOTHING but Silence!

  by 4thgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all, as you know, when jw tv was announced, our board went wild.

  many comments, much speculation and alot of negative feedback on the quality, etc.

  well, what has me concerned is that i have not heard a peep from any of my connections left in kingdom-land.

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  jonza

  a 15yo male all in JW I know said: "they can't be spending the money on KH builds, this has to be where the money is going"
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  jonza

  http://betaboston.com/news/2014/09/25/heard-of-ello-you-may-want-to-join-this-anti-facebook-soon/

  ^Ello might interest some of you
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  jonza

  -Facebook is wanting real names

  -Out of Facebooks 83 Million estimated duplicate account, I highly dount they're going to give a crap about a tiny religious group of ~8million members where only a fraction have facebook accounts, and an even smaller fraction have fake names.

  -I am sure with all the take down notices of videos on YouTube that WT is being hurt by all the material online

  -I would not be surprised if elders are being told to find their members online activities. Though how many elders are capable of this who knows.

  -Elders who do know how to find people online are probably already doing so anyway.
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  jonza

  I'm sure they will use this to spy on their members. It is quite scary really. I wonder if it's in part due to the jw.org push.. maybe this is their trial run for the a more national internet service. The internet after all is their biggest threat, if they can control the infomation or at least know who's looking at apostate material they can have a much greater control of their members. I can see it now: "use Jehovahs perfect internet service and stay spiritually clean".
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  Could they become a real cult?

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i study religions.

  i never call new world religons cults.

  until they become like heavsn gate etc.. the jw religions is setting itself u for this.

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  jonza

  I would say they already are a dangerous cult and have been for some time. There are JWs all over who are actively laying down their lives for this cult by refusing blood transfusions. Just one life lost on this policy is too many.
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  All watchtowers from 1950 for download

  by jonza in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.sendspace.com/file/ezml23.

  i happened to stumble upon this.

  it contains every wt publication as individual web pages.

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  jonza

  https://www.sendspace.com/file/ezml23

  I happened to stumble upon this. It contains every WT publication as individual web pages. Therefore it can be used on any device. Just un-zip and open the index.html
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  My JW mom is now willing to "listen" to our side...Need advice pls

  by 2pink in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i (both born in jws with extended family all "in" except for one of my sisters who left when we did) left the church 5 years ago.

  we did not fade, we just didn't believe it anymore, told our families so and left.

  obviously, big drama in our family after this, messy feelings, etc.

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  jonza

  Get her to read about the FDS:

  Then to skim over Matthew 25 to get context for this, get her to idenitify that it's a list of parabels.
  Then get her to read Luke 12:35-48 and get her to admit it's also taking about the faithful and descreet slave. Then point out what Peter calls it in Luke 12:41

  Ask why a whole religion is based on a parabel? and that it's not a prophecy of any kind.

  Also, based on this, why do you have to give total obeydiance to them?
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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  Thread subscriptions please! :)
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  Corpus Linguistics - Text Analysis of All Watchtower Publications since 1800's

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been working on a side project for a while.

  the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.

  with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .

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  jonza

  See PM :)
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  Listening to crisis of conscience as a audio book

  by foreverme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has really made me wonder how i ever got involved with the watchtower.

  it basically comes down to me just wanting to believe this delusional belief system.

  millions of people wasting their lives in this way is incredible.

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  jonza

  Thanks!