"she told me to go hang myself. Literally she said that, after accusing me of not being spiritual"
this is not the kind of person you wanna be with long-term buddy
my girlfriend cult handlers have gotten to her.
they suggested she should no longer communicate with someone who's thinking isn't in line with jehovah's organization.
we argued and she told me to go hang myself.
"she told me to go hang myself. Literally she said that, after accusing me of not being spiritual"
this is not the kind of person you wanna be with long-term buddy
as some of you know now im fairly new to ttatt so im still coming to grips with the fact that in my 24 years of life up to this point i have been in an organization that isnt the true religon that i believed.
im a very positve and optimistic person and have never been depressed while a youth in the "truth", but its still somewhat of a tough pill to swallow considering i gave up my dream of playing college basketball to get baptized when i was 18. and also the fact that armegeddon really isnt coming and i wont get to spend forever with my wonderful parents(who also know tthatt) and others close to me.. i also consider myself to have good social skills(that i developed during my rebelious years) although im somewhat of an introvert and always had "worldly" friends even when i was an ms but i im finding it tough to shake off the "all worldly people are bad" mentality that ive had for so long.
i guess my question is how long did it take you guys to get over everything and move on?
As some of you know now im fairly new to TTATT so im still coming to grips with the fact that in my 24 years of life up to this point I have been in an organization that isnt the true religon that I believed. Im a very positve and optimistic person and have never been depressed while a youth in the "truth", but its still somewhat of a tough pill to swallow considering I gave up my dream of playing college basketball to get baptized when I was 18. And also the fact that armegeddon really isnt coming and I wont get to spend forever with my wonderful parents(who also know TTHATT) and others close to me.
I also consider myself to have good social skills(that I developed during my rebelious years) although im somewhat of an introvert and always had "worldly" friends even when I was an MS but I im finding it tough to shake off the "all worldly people are bad" mentality that Ive had for so long
I guess my question is how long did it take you guys to get over everything and move on? How did you go about "starting over"?? Any tips will help! : )
the moment the leadership of the wt (a publishing company whose purpose was originally to produce pamphlets and books to edify christians) first made the claim to be gods sole channel of communication for dispensing biblical truth here on earth.
that not so discreet assumption has now left them wide open to 'everything they teach as truth'.
as a result, every time an error is exposed or a teaching is changed, their credibility will continue to be affected.
If you can convince millions of people that everything you say is from God and thier salvation depends on following you(because its from God) then you can very easily control those millions of people and make tons of $$$$$$$$
it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.
the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.
you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.
im confused! sooo does this mean WT scrapped the idea about the annointed being sealed off in 1935?
it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.
the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.
you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.
Apparently you missed it. There are THREE GROUPS, not two.
I need a drink...
lol
it was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the wt.
the conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really.
you can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, i was trying not to laugh lol.
It was really quite amusing 2day at the meeting when we got to the "this generation will not pass away" subheading in the WT. The conductor spent very little time on the section and the comments that were given didnt at all make sense really. You can tell its not understood by the majority of the friendsand will go over there heads, I was trying not to laugh lol. So much for the truth being simple like Jesus said.
And im sure its been discussed numerous times here, but how can you possibly interpret Matt 24:34 as this generation having two groups of annointed ones??? Makes no sense!!
its seemed like in my old hall(im still in just leared tthatt) evey other local needs part we had was about either gossip or needing more effort in the ministry.
also about brothers needing to step up and "reach out".. were/are there alot of gossip,lack of ministry support or lack of brothers in your hall when you were a jw?.
Its seemed like in my old hall(im still in just leared TTHATT) evey other local needs part we had was about either gossip or needing more effort in the ministry. Also about brothers needing to step up and "reach out".
Were/are there alot of gossip,lack of ministry support or lack of brothers in your hall when you were a JW?
hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.
i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).
recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).
Thanks for the support so far guys you are awesome!
hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.
i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).
recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).
Hi - I'm very curious about your parents. What led them to awaken? Did it happen suddenly or gradually? Please, without identifying them, provide some details. What are some things that bother them about JWs and/or the org? Is it teachings? Organizational policy? Hypocrisy? Deception? Failed predictions? General dumbing down? Boring meetings? I'm really wondering what the future holds for JWs and the org. I often wonder how many others recognize the negative things my wife & recognize. So it would give me some insight to have some details about your parents. |
Well it first started when my mom wasnt really interested in going to meetings as much because she felt it was the same boring lessons over and over again
The straw that broke the camels back was when my father was deleted as an elder because of the hypocrisy, lies and false accusations of the elder body. In my previous relationship, before the one im currently in, it had come to the attention of the elders that me and my ex would occasionally ride in the same car together to go on dates. Since at the time I still lived in the same house as my parents the other elders decided that my fathers qualifications "were in question"(stupidest thing i ever heard in my entire life on earth) and he had a "lapse in judgement" for letting us(two grown adults) ride in the car together. It hurt my dad deeply at the time how they(so called good friends) treated him so coldly, so much so that he could never return to the hall. Shortly after that my parents did research and the rest is history
hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.
i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).
recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).
Hello everybody, before i begin I just wanna say that I have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!
I am a born in JW(24 years old) Ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one). Recently me and my parents have have woken up to TTATT(about 2 months ago). I am fading my parents have walked away all together. My dilema is I am currently dating a JW who i am in love with. She has all of the qualities ive wanted in a mate with one exception, of course which is shes a full fledged rank and file witness. Even with her being a R&F shes very understanding and non judgemental and someone i can trust in. Last night I decided to reveal all my questions/concerns/doubts to her about WT doctrines and the organization itself. We were able to have a very calm discussion about it and she listened to me get everything off my chest which i really appreiated.
She told me that although she could see some of my ponts of view(TTATT) and some things made sense, of course the JW life is the life she wants to live and that we should take a break while I ultimately "figure things out". Its a tough dilema for the both of us because for me 1) although im really beginning to fall in love with her and we have many great friends in the organization, im not sure if I wanna play this JW game for the rest of my life and raise kids in this religon and 2) Although I definitely consider myself a student of the bible and meetings dont really bother me too much(because i harldy pay attention ever even when I was an MS lol) im not sure if i could be the "spiritual head" she needs and deserves if the JW life is what she wants. We love each other and want to genuinely be together but were both selfless in this situation and ultimatley want to do whats best for each other in the long run. We just confused currently lol
I know there are many posts on this subject and any guidence anyone has for me would be greatly appreciated! Im also open to any questions you may have