Posts by menrov

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Judge JF Rutherford's strong views on religion

by Fernando in

from time to time i read or search through two books written by the "judge" on religion.. one is titled "religion" (1940), and the other "enemies" (1937).. in these books it is clear that the terms "true religion" and "false religion" were foreign to the "judge" and later inventions by watchtower vice president and general counsel hayden c. covington in the early 1950s.. in the book "religion" on page 18, paragraph 2: "the scriptures show that organized religion originated with the devil, who created and brought into action religion for the very purpose of turning mankind away from god.".

for me the watchtower is a prime example of the "christless christianity" phenomenon..

menrov

Amazing...and hypocrite at the same time, being a religious leader himself.

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

menrov

You can never "win" the discussion. The CO is a devout JW and will not see nor accept any serious accusation against the organisation. He will likely accept that the people are imperfect, even those in the gb. etc but that there is only one organisation to acquire salvation. And then he will surely ask: Or do you think salvation can be found outside Jehovah's organisation" .I recommend not even start the discussion to prove they are wrong and you are right.

I would say: who died for me? Jesus. Who should I put faith in for eternal life? Jesus. Who is my judge? Jesus. Hence, who should I follow or obey Jesus.

Bye CO.

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Joseph and Potiphar's wife

by StarTrekAngel in

what are the real reasons joseph refused to sleep with potiphar's wife?.

the watchtower and others teach that joseph refused to commit adultery.

specifically to the jws, we teach that joseph, somehow, knew that adultery was wrong, despite not having any specific rule or writing to teach him so.

menrov

He mentions to her that his master entrusted him with "all his belongings" - that is my view as well why he did not accept the "invitation". A wife has an owner. Wen married, a women is 'owned' by the husband. Like he would not date to steal anything else that belonged to the master, he would also not take the woman.

I do not believe it was because of the sexual morality as in those times, where were no specific rules, But ownership was already a familiar term.

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JW Table at My Student Center Today, My Response

by breakfast of champions in

they're baaaack!!!

jws "tabling" at my student center again, first time in over six months.

i wonder if the fact it's been 15 degrees out had anything to do with it?

menrov

Good letter, please send and share the outcome. Good luck

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EXPERTS ONLY! A Pop Quiz on (current) Watchtower teaching

by TerryWalstrom in

pop quiz on jw (current) teaching.

1. was jesus 2nd coming in 1914?.

2. is jesus 2nd (parousia) presence the same thing as his coming?.

menrov

I guess there is one answer that fits all questions: " The GB will clarify in due course., we wait for Jehovah.."

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The WT's biggest deception?

by BU2B in

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it just dawned on me that one of if not the most deceptive thing that the wt convinces the members of is that the truth does not stand up to investigation.

they teach that lies trump truth.

the reality of course is something entirely different.

menrov

Jesus never walked away from his opponents (only when he had to run for his life).

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Attention all Bethelite Lurkers!

by The Searcher in

you have your bethel watchtower study on a monday evening, as i understand it.therefore, prepare your hearts and your bible trained consciences to "test the inspired expressions" being presented as bible truth in the next study article - especially this one;w14 11/15 p. 26 par.

"acts 1:8 - "you will be witnesses of me...." [jesus]john 1:15 - "john bore witness about him..." [jesus]john 5:37 - "the father who sent me has himself borne witness about me.

"revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to jesus.

menrov

Absolutely correct.

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Is this why the book is grey?

by Doug Mason in

the 2014 revised edition of "what does the bible really teach?

" uses the text of the 2013 nwt.

i therefore assume this is the reason for the grey colour of the "bible teach" book.. examples of the adjustments appear at pages 216 and 217 of the book:.