menrov

Joined

• started 32 topics
• posted 477 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by menrov

• 
  113

  No Bible = No God?

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

  what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

  would you still believe in a creator?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  @Anders Anderson

  I believe there is a creator, as I think that design of a living thing is too complex to just have started. But I have serious doubts about the concept of god as described in the various scriptures. My view is that the creator just created what we have and it is up to humans to make it a success (or not). The creator is not monitoring or guiding the affairs on earth. If he does, why allow so much suffering and sorrow at all stages in life, if you have the power to change it. If a normal, righteous human would remove all evil from those he loves, you could at least expect the same from a creator who is supposed to love his creation.

  It is not a criticism. I am not challenging a creator but challenging the concept of a God who love his creations as described in the scriptures.

  What is means for our future? I have no idea. May be one day the creator will focus his attention on us. Until then, it is up to us humans to live a life that is enjoyable. Hoping you do not get seriously sick or involved in a war or a serious accident etc.

  Are there beneficial things in the bible? Yes, but discernment is needed as it is written by men from a certain culture and region.

  I hope I explained myself a bit....
• 
  113

  No Bible = No God?

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

  what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

  would you still believe in a creator?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  Some doubt about the bible completely, some partially. What if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine. Would you still believe in a creator?

  I would.
  
• 
  29

  Assistance would be appreciated

  by Plato in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guess some introduction would be nice, before anything.

  i’m a 17 year old men boy raised on a very liberal, highly intelectualized jw family.

  currently very anxious on starting medical school at a high ranked public university around here.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  Welcome. You can use this site for your info but I suggest to also have a look at:

  beroeans.net

  discussthetruth.com

  Good luck with your journey.
  
• 
  18

  Dutch government to discuss JW abuse issue Thursday 15 feb between 10.00 and 13.00 [live stream]

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thursday 15 februari 2018, between 10.00 and 13.00, a committee of the dutch house of representatives will discuss jw child abuse issues during a public meeting.. for those who speak dutch, you can follow along:.

  program: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/commissievergaderingen/details?id=2018a00016.

  live stream (video): https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/groen-van-prinstererzaal.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  Listening
  
• 
  19

  I feel like I am going crazy at times ...

  by CovertsadJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good evening , .

  i feel like i am going crazy - it’s so hard not being able to talk to the ones i love about how i really feel - meaning the “ truth “ is a big lie and a big waste of time.

  it’s so weird - i can’t talk to my wife , or kids about how i really feel and it’s causing me probalms that i recognize.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  I understand the feelings. I can only say that at first, it is or can be difficult but it gets better. Being firm on your position might attract appreciation from your family (children) and others eventually. Some might not say that ever but I know for a fact that it is. So keep faith in yourself. Build up faith in your own qualities. I know from experience that the WT makes one feel very weak or insecure, like one cannot live without them. I have been out for some years now and have regained much of my natural sense of self confidence. A very nice feeling and a quality needed to help others.

  Hang in there.
  
• 
  90

  $5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

  it was sold a couple of years ago.

  we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  Regarding resolutions. If a resolution is required, it means the money is owned by the congregation, right? Does the congregation have a set of rules on how to manage these big decisions? Is it 50% + one? Does each published have an equal vote. Or can one NO vote stop the process? In other words, what is the legal framework? If the money is not owned by the congregation, why a resolution?

  As this is a big amount, I'd be interested to see what the legal framework is. If it is owned by the congregation, I would fight for it, regardless the consequences. 5 million divided by 100 publishers is a good sum of money.
• 
  7

  2 BOE's-2018-February-2 Circuit Overseer Names!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  correspondence sent to branch office.

  https://we.tl/oinwb6eohk.

  branch departments as recipients of correspondence.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  Thanks. Amazing the number of paragraphs on how to write a letter....to write to our country king is a lot easier...but then again, the gb members are even more important than Jesus....
• 
  7

  Child sexual abuse major item in Dutch News

  by jochie in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  last friday child sexual abuse was a major item in the 7.30 pm news by the rtl broadcasting company.the item can be watched here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvnjde0nsek&feature=player_embedded(english subs available).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  I agree with Zeb, it would be good to inform the Minister of Justice of the ARC proceeds and WT responses and behaviours. But I suggest to do this in a coordinated manner to avoid a mess and people or minister think "oh, it is the former JW's only who want to complain" or something like that. Anyone in NL interested?
• 
  52

  Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses

  by curiousconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the report is finally out.......... ————————.

  recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.

  recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  In addition to these recommendations specifically for JW's, there are also recommendations for ALL religious institutes, which means also apply to WT.
• 
  16

  Candidate for the Governing Body???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .

  dd 😎.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  menrov

  

  This is the body that may govern me :-)