Agree. If there is a sin that is unforgivable, and has impact on your future (life), you'd expect an explicit explanation of what that sin is. As this is missing, it is up to all the "sweet and loving" shepherd in the various religious organisations to define it and use that definition.
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The Bible speaks of the "Unforgivable Sin" ? What is it ?
by smiddy3 indo any jehovah`s witnesses or ex jehovah`s witnesses even know what that sin is ?.
why is such a statement in the bible if its not identified what that sin is ?.
were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ?
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Mexico: 2020 Census results released; bad news for the org?
by Corney ina decade ago, the 2010 census found there were 1,561,086 jehovah's witnesses in mexico (census page > tabular data > basic questionnaire > religion).
and according to the recently released 2020 census results, the number of mexicans identifying as such has declined by 2% to 1,530,909. both figures greatly outnumber those reported by the organization (e.g., peak publishers: 710 thousands and 874 thousands respectively), which means the former ones include children and free-riders.
for comparison, the total population has grown by 12%, the catholic, adventist (sda) and mormon (lds) populations - by 5%, 16% and 6% respectively.
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menrov
I believe the difference is that WT counts those who report time, whereas a census counts those who say they belong to a religion. However those are not necessarily active. WT does not count the inactive ones, those who are POMO but when asked they are still identifying them as JW. I guess it is that this group does not want to be considered part of another Christian faith and at the same tie still believe.. Therefore, they would say to belong to JW as actually they do not.
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"The founding of the world"
by Yalbadaoth inwhy are wt determined to relate the "founding of the world" to abel and "before the founding of the world" to a period before abel but after adam's sin?
there seems like a lot of twisting of verses and words to prove a point which always makes me suspicious of their motives!
(i have my own take on it but would like to hear others).
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menrov
All verses with "Foundation of the world". It is OBVIOUS :-) or EVIDENT that since the foundation of the world does not have to mean the conception and birth of the Cain and Abel. Further, WT refers to Luke 11:50, in which I ask which generation do they mean here. CLEARLY the overlapping one. Anyway, enjoy.
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Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!
by Atlantis ina friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?
if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.
atlantis!.
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menrov
What was the Bulgaria disaster I read on here?
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Wife told me a tale about a letter writing experience and my BS meter was like "uhhh ya rightttttt"
by goingthruthemotions inso me and my pimi wife are driving today and normally we don't talk anything about her stupid cult.
because it will end up with me saying something and her getting p.o'ed.
well anyways i have been trying to just ignore the bs and keep my mouth shut.
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The woman refused, but finally said ok
I assume the standard JW tactic was applied .... keep pushing..
Good story and of course, ssoooooo true
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Jehovah is steering the new Ramapo Facility, but somehow needs volunteer labor and donations
by RULES & REGULATIONS inlife and ministry meeting workbook | september 2020. living as christians.
can you contribute your time and energy?.
ramapo, new york.
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menrov
In addition, some 750 construction workers who are not Jehovah’s Witnesses helped to keep the project on schedule
I guess those were the smart ones and got paid.
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Stay Trump Stay
by Vanderhoven7 intrump has his supporters.
https://youtube.com/shorts/uflc5szrrgo.
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menrov
I do not understand this idolatry of Trump. Regardless whether you agree with his views on how a country should be run, one must realize that many of his actions or words, resulted in more separation of people and for some even meant that violence is ok to achieve your goal, though he might claim he did not directly say that.
Why are supporters of Trump not honest to themselves and admit that Trump (at times) did not act as a president for all Americans. It does not mean you suddenly are not a supporter anymore. I support a sports team (football) If they performed badly, I will admit and acknowledge that. And hope next time they will perform better.
It sometimes looks like PIMI JW's. They also cannot believe their leaders have done wrong things. They accept all that their leaders do and say, will defend it to anyone who challenges them and will blame anyone who disagrees with them as "false opponents".
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Thoughts on JW funerals
by Syme ini recently had the sad opportunity to attend 2 jw funerals.
the first was a few months ago and the second today.
the first was my grandfather's and the second of an old friend back from my jw days.
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I am also surprised to notice how fast the people in the congregation have forgotten their co-JW's who have died. They hardly ever speak about them, regardless if they were an elder, m.s. or just publisher or regardless number of years they served in the congregation. It is often like they have never existed.
Also, in some cases, I noticed that the stone on the grave is very simple compared to non-JW graves. I respect that costs might be a driver for this but I tend to believe that a "lack" of appreciation of the person is a stronger driver, with the argument: well, it is only temporary (hmmm.....) until resurrection.
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More JW left ideology examples
by neat blue dog inthe latest gb update ramps up the fear of the plandemic even more, and introduces a whiteboard animation that advocates staying at home, wearing masks and social distancing.. https://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&category=latestvideos&item=pub-jwb_202012_12_video&docid=1011214&applanguage=e.
then there's another 'save the planet' type article that mentions debunked and unrealistic green new deal-esque talking points such as alternative energy, switching to a plant based diet and less manufacturing.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/save-earth/.
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menrov
When a major disaster happens, like WW1, WW2, Spanish Flu, Polio etc, people directly impacted will think: this is the end. At the same time, those who are not directly impacted, will not draw that conclusion. In other, the sentiment about the end of the world is very subjective and personal.
With regard to the prophecies, Jesus that it will be sudden, like a thief who comes unannounced, when you least expect it, when people are still marrying and having children etc. Therefore, based on Jesus's words, major disasters are never to be considered as a sign that it is the beginning of the end.
But of course, scaring people pays off. They become easier to influence, to follow you etc.
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Adultery, Divorce, Remarry
by azl0058 inmy brother (who is a witness) has been married for 8 years.
he and his wife (also a witness) got married young, but he never really tried in the marriage, but she also lost his trust early on.
he says that it was his fault though because he pushed her away.. anyways, he met this new girl (not a witness) and told his wife that he wanted to separate.
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menrov
In my view simple: you either follow WT rules and accept the consequences or you don't and accept the consequences. WT is not interested in your happiness. WT (and religious organisations) should not interfere with couples / marriages. I understand that he does not love his wife anymore and is in love with the other woman. He should convince himself of what he really wants. Do not turn this new girl into a JW as that is the wrong basis for a relation. If she is his new future, focus on building a foundation with that girl, separate from religion. If she develops a natural desire for religion, that is fine but it should never be a condition to start a relationship.