Posts by menrov

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Why believe in a god?

by menrov in

if you consider that the god they believe in:.

- cannot be seen or heard and is only known in books written by writers we do not know nor do we have the original writings- does not listen to prayers from believers for security, safety, health, survival, protection, rescue, food etc- promises things that have not come true though had plenty of time to act on the promises- does not provide what you need to live- let's you suffer, struggle, work etc equal to non-believers, treated equally.

........ how does a believer look at his/her parents if they hide themselves, do not provide for you (shelter, food etc), make promises but never live up to these, does not provide what you need to live, treats you like anyone else but not as their child?

menrov

if you consider that the god they believe in:

- cannot be seen or heard and is only known in books written by writers we do not know nor do we have the original writings
- does not listen to prayers from believers for security, safety, health, survival, protection, rescue, food etc
- promises things that have not come true though had plenty of time to act on the promises
- does not provide what you need to live
- let's you suffer, struggle, work etc equal to non-believers, treated equally

.......

How does a believer look at his/her parents if they hide themselves, do not provide for you (shelter, food etc), make promises but never live up to these, does not provide what you need to live, treats you like anyone else but not as their child? Would you copy that behavior as best practice? If not, why believe in a god?

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May 23 Watchtower

by Listener in

study article 22 is headed.

"keep traveling on the "way of holiness".

this article states that since 1919, having left babylon the great in that year, jws today are traveling on 'the way of holiness" (a figurative highway) as it takes them through the spiritual paradise and leads them through to future kingdom blessings.. they say that 'preparatory work' of that highway began centuries earlier.

menrov

It remains peculiar. Luk 6:43 “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit,

Most religions originate from Catholic church. Some later came from the Reformist or Protestant church. If the Catholic church is a bad tree, the fruits are also bad..... tell that to a JW.... :-)

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Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

menrov

Parables are lessons for life, meaning that it can be applied always. Therefore WT can abuse this principle and state that some parables are (like) prophecies.

Why would Jesus say this parable if it was a prophecy for a time when his audience would not be alive?

Religious organizations are for their own benefit and the Bible can be used to their benefit. Just show me one organization where their leaders live a humble life, and work for their own money and pay taxes?

They all love power and to receive admiration.

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Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are Fulfilled. — Luke 21:24

by Fisherman in

jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the gentile times are fulfilled.

— luke 21:24 .

the bible book of luke records jesus prophecy of the last day with his parousia including the verse about the gentile times.

menrov

Why would someone speak to another person or persons about something that will happen and how they (audience) should act if actually it will not happen to them? Would it not be fair to say that what I am about to say does not apply to you but to people that will live far in the future.....but I cannot guarantee that my words will be understood by then.

My point, if you write or speak to someone or some people, it is meant for the person(s) you speak to or write to. not for a future set of people, hundreds or thousands of years later.

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Are they now tracking our activity on jw.org app?

by raymond frantz in

this disclaimer appeared on my jw.org app after using their add notes function on the watchtower study section are they now tracking the app and what we add to it?

the information i add on their note section is mainly points that i can use on my videos which is really clashed as apostate material.this information is saved on my drive and not on cloud so are they installing a tracker on your system once you press accept so they can use this information against in the future?

have you had a similar experience?.

menrov

Your data may be shared with other branches or cooperating organizations used by Jehovah’s Witnesses if necessary to satisfy your request.

Wonder what these are.....

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Why Not Celebrate Christmas?

by Mum in

jw
friends

so, jw's don't celebrate christmas or other holidays.

as bill cetnar once said, there are two reasons for everything: the reason they tell you, and the real reason.

they will tell you it's because christmas is "pagan" and can lead to all sorts of licentious conduct (like drinking too much macallan scotch?)..

menrov

No Christmas, no Easter, no birthdays..... everything to be opposite of Catholics.

BTW: regarding birthdays. so-called, negative examples in the bible. But if God fearing people were not supposed to be at a birthday party, then who wrote the story and could observe and hear what happened????

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Watchtower Study : Jehovah Is Helping You To Succeed

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | january 2023. study article 3. jehovah is helping you to succeed.

how jehovah makes you successful.

13. does jehovah intervene in every situation we face?

menrov

Religious blindness --> change any situation into a positive act of God. Not unique to JW's. About all devote believers will see their God in everything.

In the example here, from the outside, you would say: where is the almighty God with all the powers he has? Did he prevent the boy to get sick as the family is part of God's family? Did the boy recover? And who actually tried to cure the boy? Doctors who are not JW's and had a study that the WT would not support (higher education). So, if you want to see the hand of God, you can see it in the provision of educated and devoted doctors.

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Can the World Cup Really Unite People? - What Does the Bible Say?

by Festus in

seriously....this is an article on jw.borg.. really?

football - or soccer - and bible?.

these guys have really lost the plot.. i can promise you that bible does not say a flying flaming about world cup.. however, as much as people want them to, these events cannot provide lasting unity.

menrov

They (WT) only 'unite' in their organisation, everyone not in, is out and should be avoided, no social contact, no charity support.... from that perspective, I believe football or any other major sports, will unite more than when you become a JW, because the first thing you need to do is to avoid non-JW friendships and shun opposers.

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