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  Poignant Statistics Summary for Comment at This Sunday WT Study! (Aug. 3, 2014)

  by SAHS in

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  the watchtower study to be considered this sunday, august 3, 2014 (using the magazine dated may 15, 2014), titled are you moving ahead with jehovahs organization?, in paragraph seven (on pages 27-28), talks about the number of people baptized in recent years:.

  7 where do those making up the great crowd come from?

  they are being brought together because of what jesus foretold as part of the sign of his presence.

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  sporece

  Your father is going to slap you after the meeting for that comment.
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  Evolution is just a theory

  by venting in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this ticks me off!

  last sundays watchtower talked about how organised the heavens are.

  how it works so acuratley.

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  sporece

  Anyone that believes that man has been here on earth for only 6000 years definitely has a mental problem.

  Of course i was one of them for most of my life.
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  3rd Update on Fading

  by wallievase in

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  ok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.. on our way back from th international convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.. so i took a few days and thought about it.

  it seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.. today i gave her a proposal- i will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.. we will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.. we will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests.

  i will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it.

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  sporece

  Hope she sees the "light".

  Mine didn't.

  Wish you the best for both.
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  sporece

  You know best how to handle your situation in your congr..... fade at your own pace.

  What a waste to pioneer and invite people to check a website, just as bad as inviting people to a convention 400 miles away.
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

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  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  sporece

  8 mil witnesses and only 250 k getting baptized a year.

  As mentioned they would get those numbers in the 70s and 80s with half of the witnesses in the field.

  How many leave? How many have no faith in the wat. and stay in for whatever reason?

  GOOGLE is Satan and the archenemy of the watchtower. :)
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  sporece

  I live in Southern California, left the org. after 32 years and what i hear from some young ones that also left the org. that all of their friend that they grew up with, 90% of them have left.

  Maybe it's not happening in every cong. but young ones will not stick around to worship a few guys in NY.
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  sporece

  The question is...how many from the field?

  Usually 95% are very young ones that get dipped because that's the thing to do.
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  JW.Org Blitz

  by Theredeemer in

  1. jw
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  i've noticed, partilcularly on instagram, a advertising blitz for jw.org by the dubs.

  primarily its the younger ones 35 and under vs older ones.

  i dont know if its just my friends or everyone but they are obsessed with jw.org.

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  sporece

  Once again i think it's all about money.

  Let the website tell them about the good news of the kingdom and not waste 100's of million of publications that end up in the trash and does not bring anyone to the organization.

  They know that 99% of those baptized are those raised in the religion and brainwashed from day one by parents.
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  The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.

  1. be a hypocrite.

  i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.

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  sporece

  Don't know how old you are and we all understand what you're going through, we've been there, trying to please everyone in the family by faking it.

  The conclusion of the matter is since you know that the watchtower is a cult, in due time you will not be able to keep your mouth shot and eventually hell will break loose with your wife, your parents and the congregation.

  I slowly faded, my marriage fell apart after 26 years but i am free and living with a clean conscience being away from a dangerous religion.
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  JW.Org Blitz

  by Theredeemer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've noticed, partilcularly on instagram, a advertising blitz for jw.org by the dubs.

  primarily its the younger ones 35 and under vs older ones.

  i dont know if its just my friends or everyone but they are obsessed with jw.org.

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  sporece

  I had two of them knocking on my door yesterday and did not have much of a presentation but just encourage me to check their website.

  Easy preaching!!!!