Posts by FFtruther144

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For the more studious types: question on the revised NWT

by L3G in

i know it's a small point, but i couldn't help noticing.

it's about a now inconsistent rendering in ecclesiastes.

to help visualize the matter:.

FFtruther144

RubaDub,

Do you know the NWT is Hort and Wescott because you study the NWT & NIV/ESV/NKJ, Etc.?

Or do you have written proff, such as an admission, or credit given, or anything that documents this fact?

Thank you.

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1. WT history & change toward youth 2. somehow repeating itself?

by L3G in

in da.furios's recent thread.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/280534/1/recent-refinements-changes-in-wts#.u5jgaf3holi.

he made this comment:.

FFtruther144

In my opinion the strategy helps to memory-hole the past.

This way the organization sheds itself of possibly jaded management level servants that would notice doctrinal flip-flops and so forth.

This leaves managers that have only ever known the current version of doctrine and would not be prone to thinking "Hey wait a minute..."

And this restructure is a part of the WTBTS/CAJW merger with the New World Order.

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Reviling of Rebels

by FFtruther144 in

this past sunday at our meeting, the talk was focused on "rebelion".

as usual, doctored-up scriptures were plucked out of context from the nwt so that "rebels worldwide" were slandered, actually reviled.

the concept of defiance of authority or resistance to government or to the payment of taxes was also ridiculed and discouraged.

This past Sunday at our meeting, the talk was focused on "Rebelion". As usual, doctored-up scriptures were plucked out of context from the NWT so that "Rebels Worldwide" were slandered, actually reviled. The concept of defiance of authority or resistance to government or to the payment of taxes was also ridiculed and discouraged. It saddened me greatly to see all the heads in the Hall bobbing in agreement! I only go to meetings now for my wife’s sake. I actually HATE listening to these lies! I want to stand up right in the middle of the talk and shout out “Liar!” I am very discouraged at the vast number of absolutely uninformed, blissfully ignorant sheeple in this relegion!

Romans 13 was used to "PROVE" that all government is by and of Jehova, and that rebellion against government is rebellion against Jehova always. The key sentence of Romans 13 (KJV) is: "For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil." In other words, governments sanctioned by Jehova are supposed to fight evil and protect their citizens from evil. Governments sanctioned by Jehova do not commit atrocities on anyone, especially their own people.

2nd Samuel 23:3 (KJV) describes a legitimate government according to Jehova: “The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.” When ANY government or ANY authority over a people becomes corrupt and perpetrates evil on its own citizens, It is time to REBEL.

Psalm 94:16 (KJV) commands us to Rise Up or Stand up against tyrants: "Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"

Ephesians 6:10-13 (KJV) warns us to resist the evil inherent in earthly government: "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand .

Ephesians 5:11 (KJV) commands us to EXPOSE the works of darkness: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." The word "reprove" comes from the Greek elencho and means "TO EXPOSE."

James 4:17 (KJV) commands us to do the right thing, to not ignore or allow evil to go unchallenged: “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”

In Micha 6:8 (KJV) God asks us to do justice: “ He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly , and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? ”

Do these scriptures advocate total blind obedience to all authority?

The Elder giving the talk failed to mention one single story from the bible where Jehova supported rebellion against a governing authority. There are so many of them! The Bible DOES NOT say that we must ALWAYS OBEY government. In fact when one reads the bible independently, and on a personal basis, it becomes obvious that the message is the opposite of this talk! I am writing a white paper on this very subject and I absolutely prove through scripture that proper rebellion is REQUIRED by Jehova. In the future, I will be publishing a book proving that the Watchtower Society is a pro New World Order project. This week’s talk was another brick in the wall of ignorance and mis-direction perpetrated by this religion. I have pity for all the millions of confused and totally ignorant Jehovas Witnessess giving their lives up to this un-holy cult!

When the New World Order hammer falls, the Watchtower Society will be right there lending a big tax exempt helping hand...

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

FFtruther144

Watchtower-Free, Thank you very much for the reference!

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The Bible-TV Mini-Seriers

by MaybeSo in

i usually like to watch netflix on my lunch hour.

i had nothing interesting to watch in the last few days so i decided to give this show a try.

it's interesting but there are a few things missing from the bible and there area additional scenes and dialogue.

FFtruther144

I recently watched it. I liked it okay. Squeezing all of that into 10 hours left alot on the editing floor I'm afraid.

I am encouraged though that so many people watched it and were at least interested in the subject.

It got good ratings.

My wife stopped watching with me at the start of the episode where Jesus is crucified.

She kept arguing about the "Truth" of each episode and pausing to grab her iPad and lookup scripture at JW.org.

I think the show was not King James, but more like NIV.

The latest New World Order Translation is really bad. There are over 700 heavily edited/deleted/modified scriptures.

If you have been a lifelong JW, The Bible will seem "un-biblical" because it actually is biblical.

Hope that makes sense.

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

FFtruther144

leaving_quietly please tell me where you have heard or where is it documented about following a strange instruction.

I heard this comment from a visiting speaker at the kingdom hall and I'm so sorry I don't have a recording of that.

My mind is playing tricks on me because I was pretty sure I heard it at last year's convention too.

Doe anyone have something you can post that has this either recorded or in writing?

I need to share it with my wife as we have been arguing about this topic.

Thank you so much for showing me I'm not crazy!

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C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

by FFtruther144 in

russel is burried under the pyramid.

according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.

i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.

FFtruther144

Sorry for all of the fat finger typing and double-posting.

I'm trying to be more careful.

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C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

by FFtruther144 in

russel is burried under the pyramid.

according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.

i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.

FFtruther144

Well I guess the termination of this video proves the WTC is all over this site, re-writing history as it happens.

Kudos to the trolls and watchers at bBethel HQ!

Welcome to Internet 2.0, where everything will be removed for copyright infringement, even if it is "Fair Use".

Luckily I have a copy this video and can post it again and again and again and again.

How can God's organization on earth have anything to hide? Why can't all of the history be revealed?

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Message to everyone on this site

by FFtruther144 in

to active jws who visit this site, read the posts, and think about the subjects being discussed: i give my deepest respect and honor.

i know how very difficult it is, especially if you are born and raised.

the wts makes it a top priority, with no expense seemingly spared, to make it impossible for you to find out that there is someone behind the curtain.

FFtruther144

To active JW’s who visit this site, read the posts, and think about the subjects being discussed: I give my deepest respect and honor. I know how very difficult it is, especially if you are born and raised. The WTS makes it a top priority, with no expense seemingly spared, to make it impossible for you to find out that there IS someone behind the curtain. Eph 5:11 “And stop sharing in the unfruitful works that belong to the darkness; rather, EXPOSE them for what they are.”

To those former & non-JW’s on this site spreading real truth: thank you for helping our brothers and sisters that are just starting to peek behind the curtain. I have seen so many valuable discussions and information being posted here. You are doing good works that will bear good fruitage.

To those Watchtower Trolls posting company propaganda and twisted history, backed by a multi-billion dollar propaganda infrastructure: Start by reading George Orwell’s 1984. YOU are working at the Ministry of Truth, re-writing history as necessary to aid & abet the many, many, many cover-ups and “New-Light” faux pas that keep the machinery turning. YOU have (perhaps unwittingly) become a cog in the wheel of false prophecy, and the ongoing progress of Satan’s New World Order. James 4:17 “Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.” 2 Cor 5:10 “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.”

When one looks back over 100+ years of edited history, suppressed history, new light, doctrinal flip-flops, inaccurate statements, false prophesies, destruction of older publications, disfellowshipping, child sex abuse cover-ups, hypocrisy as shown by UN membership and the Bulgaria settlement, double standards vis a vis Malawi/Mexico, and the abomination that was the 2013 convention, one MUST question ANYTHING published by the WTS, especially if placed here by a troll to “disprove” something they are actively trying to contain. I come here to join with the truth seekers and the truth tellers to fulfill my obligation to Ephesians 5:11 as a conscience matter.

To active JW’s who visit this site, read the posts, and think about the subjects being discussed: I give my deepest respect and honor. I know how very difficult it is, especially if you are born and raised. The WTS makes it a top priority, with no expense seemingly spared, to make it impossible for you to find out that there IS someone behind the curtain. Eph 5:11 “And stop sharing in the unfruitful works that belong to the darkness; rather, EXPOSE them for what they are.”

To those former & non-JW’s on this site spreading real truth: thank you for helping our brothers and sisters that are just starting to peek behind the curtain. I have seen so many valuable discussions and information being posted here. You are doing good works that will bear good fruitage.

To those Watchtower Trolls posting company propaganda and twisted history, backed by a multi-billion dollar propaganda infrastructure: Start by reading George Orwell’s 1984. YOU are working at the Ministry of Truth, re-writing history as necessary to aid & abet the many, many, many cover-ups and “New-Light” faux paws that keep the machinery turning. YOU have (perhaps unwittingly) become a cog in the wheel of false prophecy, and the ongoing progress of Satan’s New World Order. James 4:17 “Therefore, if someone knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him.” 2 Cor 5:10 “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.”

When one looks back over 100+ years of edited history, suppressed history, new light, doctrinal flip-flops, inaccurate statements, false prophesies, destruction of older publications, disfellowshipping, child sex abuse cover-ups, hypocrisy as shown by UN membership and the Bulgaria settlement, double standards vis a vis Malawi/Mexico, and the abomination that was the 2013 convention, one MUST question ANYTHING published by the WTS, especially if placed here by a troll to “disprove” something they are actively trying to contain. I come here to join with the truth seekers and the truth tellers to fulfill my obligation to Ephesians 5:11.

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C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

by FFtruther144 in

russel is burried under the pyramid.

according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.

i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.

FFtruther144

C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

According to none other than Frederick Franz himself, in his own words!

I read some WT trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.

That is NOT true. For one thing the marker was installed AFTER the pyramid.

Check out the Youtube vid of Franz at 01:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7coPgNoGQU

What say you trolls???