Posts by HeyThere

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

HeyThere

Thank you to everyone for the kind words and information. It has been making me a bit anxious.

I had my pre-op and was able to get my sister listed as the person to make emergency mediocal decisions in the event of a medical emergency. i did not tell my husbnd abut it yet...i am hoping it wont even be an issue. I am just not putting him in that position because it is lose-lose for him. He wouldnt want to let me die, but he wouldnt want to go against jehovah. anx the brothers who i am sure will be all up in the business. he would seek council from tbem, and so bad pozition for him. i took it away.

a couple sisters came over tonight to finish watching the blood video. They were all over me asling me if i made sure they knowi dont take blood.

I changed the subject to all the things we did talk about the surgery. I just dont understand!!!!!! they dont give up!

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Memorial Musings

by undercover in

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a few things noticed in last nights annual, jesus who?

gathering:.

1: only one scripture from the gospels was read or cited.

HeyThere

I zoned out. My plan was to jot down contradictions or crazh stuff but... i didnt.

I am a new unbaptized pub, my h was raised dub. he was inactive for several years. he knows i do not believe the kw teaching now...he has been sensitive about it...so imagine my surprise when he started whispering jokes in my ear...about how there were only 2 crackers on each plate, how the sudden onset of crying children was because they couldnt eat a cracker, and he even laughed when i said i should have brought my own crackerz to start noisely chewing after i passed the plate to see what people would say. so we had some fun lol

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Did anyone in the congregation discourage you from going to college?

by Trapped in JW land in

i remember being out on service with an elder when i was 17. he asked me what i plan on doing after high school.

i told him i was thinking of going to college to be a teacher.

he then asked me, "do you think this system is going to be around that long"?

HeyThere

my h was raised a dub. he was not allowed to play sports and was discouraged from college. when we got together, he ended up going and getting a degree.

they are already making comments to my daughter. even my husband. to the point where i have told her that i will always have her back amd she can go to school to be whatever she wants.

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

HeyThere

bmy husband was inactive for several years, before we were dating. we started going about a year ago...but i just became an unbaptized publisher in the last montb. prior to my convo with elders, i was all in...thinkimg ot is just christianoty with some tweaks. it was durimg my elder convo to become an unbaptized pub that my eyes opened. they basocally said that they count all people who have attended kh for any period of time as jws in their numbers, even disfellowshipped, inactive ones, etc. didnt matter if you havent been to a hall in 15 years, you are countd in the number reported unless you provided a letter of resognation to the elders. this seemed odd to me, so i started to question things, did research, and here i am.

my h knows how i feel, but i also support him. this is the only religion he knkws so it will take time to tell him ttatt because of that. but he does know i have no intemt of getting bPtized anymore.

sorry for typose my phone is not acting right....

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Are JW'S "hated" in all the world? Or...are they considered IRRELEVANT?

by Terry in

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wathctower 90/1/1 p. 12 par.

8 not ashamed of the good news .

while it is true that jehovahs witnesses are hated and opposed in all the nations of the earth, this is in fulfillment of what was foretold to be an identifying mark of genuine worshipers of the one living and true god.

HeyThere

yep they are fudging the numbers. they slipped up when they told me and i dont think they even realize they made the slip they made. or think i didnt catch it. but yes, anyone whoever attended for any period of time is apparently counted. whether they stopped going 15 years ago is irrelivant. even if they were children who stopped going even as teemsthey are counted according to what was said.

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Are JW'S "hated" in all the world? Or...are they considered IRRELEVANT?

by Terry in

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friends

wathctower 90/1/1 p. 12 par.

8 not ashamed of the good news .

while it is true that jehovahs witnesses are hated and opposed in all the nations of the earth, this is in fulfillment of what was foretold to be an identifying mark of genuine worshipers of the one living and true god.

HeyThere

i had no clue about the real jw religion. i thought it was basically standard christian with some small differemces that i never really thought about. this past year my h who was raised dub but inactive for a decade started going again. i started studying, recently became an unbaptised publisher. during my quiz with the elders, they said something that didnt sot well with me. they said they count all members, even inactive disfellowshipped, etc. as members unless they formally write a resignation letter.

so how many dubs are there, really?

i started digging amd didnt like what i found.

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The Apostasy Within

by Ultimate Axiom in

in the latest watchtower (july 15, 2014, page 14, paragraph 10) it says; today, jehovahs people are not often confronted with apostasy within the congregation.

still, when exposed to unscriptural teachings, regardless of the source, we must decisively reject them.. so, not often, but occasionally jws are exposed to apostasy within the congregation, and they are instructed to decisively reject it.

as we all know, the vast majority of the apostasy they are exposed to comes from the governing body.. i am meeting up soon with an old friend from the 1970s who i havent seen for decades, who is still an active jw, and who would really like to hear what i think about things.

HeyThere

the reasoning book is great for ttatt. so is the revelation book. and all the wt stud mag this month. my h knows i am not liking all tje comtradictions i am finding. he has a dub excuse for it all. but is willing to learn about blood. i just feel so sad fpr him amd his family. and my kids. this religion makes me angry. and i am heading to field service in a couple hours.

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

HeyThere

The more I have read about how the elders involve themselves in issues they have no business in amd the extreme behavior...hiding sick childre to avoid blood, intimidating people into acting on their flawed beliefs, hiding kids from nondub parents during custody battles, splitting up relationships (personal experience with this when my h and i were dating. i will tell that story later) wth?

i plan to have a written statememt to give to the medical team. i will give it to my doctor at my preop amd also provide it upon check in for the procedure. i have no doubt my h loves me dearly amd would not intentionally kill

me, but i know already a couple will be coming to the hospital to be witb my family while i am in surgery. i would love to believe it is just because they care but after all my jw research i am realizing it is likely that they are just planning ahead. what a loving and kind provision. so i will make sure my h ismt put into that position. thank you fpr all the kindwords amd suggestions. very helpful. i will be applying these great tips. amd if they asl me about it after the sirgery, i now habe a perfect bible verse to respond woth.

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Why are we not seeing more posts on Cosmos? Im surprised! Believers, what do you think!?

by Jon Preston in

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i want to see and hear peoples views on what we have seen.

i, personally, think it has been fantastic.

i hear many complain its not informative enough or its sugar coated or whatever but i think its brilliant for the mere fact that its dumbed down for us lamen folk...my wife still doesnt get some of it and i agree...but that, for me, shows how comex real life is....its not easy as many religionists believe.....

HeyThere

I absolutely love Cosmos. I dvr and rewatch and love. I also love ancient aliens. i am.facinated by this stuff anyways. a big science nerd. i wish i would have gone to college for science instead of business lol.

speaking of...i just have to mention the elder giving the talk at the kh this week started going on amd on about dinosaurs when going over the draw close to jehovah....ttatt pr oblivious?

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Upcoming Surgery and Blood

by HeyThere in

i am a newly unbaptised publisher.

recently i found out i need to have major surgery and the jw's tried to rush a blood card in my hand.

i was so relieved when the elders said i could not have one until i was baptised.. but they rushed to get me copies of the blood videos.

HeyThere

I plan on providing my docs clear written instructions that I will accept blood. I have no doubt elders would pressure my husband to let me die if it came down to it, and he is still stuck on the blood thing himself. It is all he knows. So I don't want him to even be put in that position. The docs can say, kick rocks!