Policemen beat up 15-year-old JW boy

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a father complains that several policemen beat his 15 year old son "because the family is jehovah's witness and the black race".

http://www.martinoticias.com/a/cuba-golpiza-menor-estacion-policia-moron-/140761.html.

see also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/4898637962280960.

darkspilver

Thanks - I was using the headline as provided in the article as the basis

One of the public comments - which are only visible if you actually 'click' to view them - right at the bottom of the web page says (google translate)

Note Clarification on the beating of the minor in Morón. Luis Lemagne Milian, only 15 years old is NOT JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, his parents and other relatives if they belong to that religion. It was a writing error in the headline of the news. Nevertheless the weight of the chronicle lies in the brutality of the police.

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Policemen beat up 15-year-old JW boy

by darkspilver in

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a father complains that several policemen beat his 15 year old son "because the family is jehovah's witness and the black race".

http://www.martinoticias.com/a/cuba-golpiza-menor-estacion-policia-moron-/140761.html.

see also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5714189639221248/_post/4898637962280960.

darkspilver

A father complains that several policemen beat his 15 year old son "because the family is Jehovah's Witness and the black race"

http://www.martinoticias.com/a/cuba-golpiza-menor-estacion-policia-moron-/140761.html

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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics

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an esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!

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CUBA: JW minor beaten by several policemen in Morón, complains his father

Marti Noticias, 10 March 2017

Minor, Jehovah's Witness, beaten by several policemen in Morón, complains his father
Luis Lemagne Millán, 15, was beaten at a police station in Morón and transferred to a Provincial Detention Center in Ciego de Avila. Parents are unaware of the reasons for the arrest.
A minor has been detained since February 28 at the Provincial Unit for the Detention of Minors in Ciego de Avila, although he is not accused of any charges, according to his father in an interview with Radio Martí.
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The minor was assaulted at the police station and then taken to the hospital where he received medical attention. From there he was transferred to the juvenile section of the Detention Center in the city of Ciego de Ávila, contiguous to the Provincial Delegation of the Ministry of the Interior.
"We went to warn the house at 2:00 am but we could not see it until 10:00 am in the hospital. That's where we could do the photos of the blows in the face," said Luis, who believes that the cruelty against the son occurs because the family is Jehovah's Witness and the black race.

Notes: According to Wikipedia - Radio y Televisión Martí is an American radio and television international broadcaster based in Miami, Florida which transmits newscasts and programs in Spanish to Cuba - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_y_Televisi%C3%B3n_Mart%C3%AD

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Article: 'I was dead to them': How Lara escaped the Jehovah's Witnesses 'cult'

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4522599/i-was-dead-to-them-how-lara-escaped-the-jehovahs-witnesses-cult/?cs=4173.

'i was dead to them': how lara escaped the jehovah's witnesses 'cult'.

rachel brownemarch 10, 2017. three decades ago jodi*'s family were searching for a better life for themselves and their four children, well away from the gritty inner-city high rise apartment they called home.. the family packed up their belongings and moved to rural victoria where they planned to start anew.. then one morning a pair of jehovah's witnesses knocked on the door to spread the word of the watchtower bible and tract society.

darkspilver

Do you have a personal problem with Barbara's posts? You seem to whine about a lot of them

Pardon?

Both links that Barbara posted work.

YES, exactly! - I thanked her for posting the article and a working link - actually a big thank you for providing a WORKING link to the article.

Although the article and link to the original article in the Sydney Morning Herald was provided a couple of days by jwleaks here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5724057662128128/_post/5755533665501184

the page on SMH has now been DELETED and does NOT work! The SMH article has been MOVED to a new location on their website and therefore needs a NEW link - which I noted has handily been added to the bottom of the link that thankfully Barbara provided in her OP above.

I understood that jwleaks was trying to do a "List all media reports here for future reference" - that's a problem when certain news organisations, such as the SMH, decide to DELETE online news articles after they have been published and MOVE them to NEW location on their website WITHOUT doing a 301 - but as you say: ' I know that tech is hard.'

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SCOTLAND: JW warned court will deliver judgment

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from the east coast of scotland, just north of dundee...... the courier - friday 10 february 2017 - page 8. jehovah’s witness warned court will deliver judgment .

a church figure has been told by a sheriff that the courts will deliver judgment on his domestic offending and not the jehovah’s witness group he is a member of.

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darkspilver

U P D A T E !!

The Courier, Thursday 9 March 2017, page 8

Arbroath man who acted aggressively towards his wife sentenced to 180 hours of unpaid work
A 46-year-old man who acted aggressively towards his wife after returning from the pub to their Arbroath home has been sentenced to unpaid work as an alternative to custody.

(the 460-word online article is about twice as long as the printed version)

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Article: 'I was dead to them': How Lara escaped the Jehovah's Witnesses 'cult'

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4522599/i-was-dead-to-them-how-lara-escaped-the-jehovahs-witnesses-cult/?cs=4173.

'i was dead to them': how lara escaped the jehovah's witnesses 'cult'.

rachel brownemarch 10, 2017. three decades ago jodi*'s family were searching for a better life for themselves and their four children, well away from the gritty inner-city high rise apartment they called home.. the family packed up their belongings and moved to rural victoria where they planned to start anew.. then one morning a pair of jehovah's witnesses knocked on the door to spread the word of the watchtower bible and tract society.

darkspilver

thanks for a 'working' link

As mentioned at the bottom of the above article, this article is the same as what was published in the Sydney Morning Herald that was posted here by jwleaks:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5724057662128128/_post/5755533665501184

But the link to the SMH in the above post is dead now

I've been highlighting Ms Kaput's campaign - as mentioned in the article - in the thread below

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5049862485704704/australia-petition-cancel-charity-status-watchtower-jehovahs-witnesses

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School bus driver accused of telling boy he would go to hell because of moms.

by ToesUp in

school-bus-driver-accused-of-telling-boy-hed-go-to-hell-because-of-his-mom/.

darkspilver

The Orlando Sentinel is saying that the School Bus Driver will not face any disciplinary action.

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Watching the World - MEGA THREAD of topics

by darkspilver in

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an esoteric hotchpotch of topics, from the mildly interesting to the rather boringi'm posting here to avoid the 'new topic' forum limitations, and besides it also helps to avoid clogging up the forum if you think something is of passing interest, and you wish to comment on it, please feel free to re-post as a new topic - thanks!

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darkspilver

UPDATE - USA: Boy says school-bus driver told him he and his moms are going to hell

UPDATE regarding the above Tuesday 7 March 2017 story

Orlando Sentinel, Friday 10 March 2017

Boy says school-bus driver told him he and his moms are going to hell
Nathaly Encarnacion said she was hurt and devastated when her son came home from school telling her and her partner that all three of them were going to hell because of his moms' same-sex relationship.
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It started when Encarnacion's son brought home a Jehovah's Witnesses business card in early February, she said.
He had missed his regular bus home from Alta Vista Elementary School one afternoon and was put on a different bus. He told the driver, later identified as Jacobo, that he was worried his two moms would be upset that he was getting home so late, Encarnacion said.
Jacobo allegedly told the boy in Spanish that he won't get into heaven because of his parents' same-sex relationship and gave him the business card.
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“I've gotten a lot of backlash because I've been told Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in hell,” she added, “but what he described to me is what I think of as hell.”
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“The School District's review of this incident has been completed,” spokesman Jason Geary wrote in an email. “She has been counseled by her supervisor on how to properly interact with students, including not to discuss or promote religious matters with students.”
Jacobo was hired Aug. 31, 2012, and has no disciplinary action in her personnel file, according to Geary.
A policy advisory letter signed by both Jacobo and her supervisor Wednesday will be placed in her file, he said.
It calls Jacobo a valued team member and reads, “This letter is not to be construed as disciplinary in nature, but is intended to inform or re-familiarize you with School Board policy as it relates to student supervision and welfare.”
The letter points out standards of ethical conduct that state a support staff member with direct access to students shall “make a reasonable effort to protect the student from conditions harmful to learning and/or to the student's mental and/or physical health and/or safety” and “not intentionally expose a student to unnecessary embarrassment or disparagement.”

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The Guardian: In Russia, the persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses begins all over again

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2017/mar/09/in-russia-the-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses-begins-all-over-again.

in russia, the persecution of jehovah’s witnesses begins all over again.

giles fraser.

darkspilver

Anony Mous: Also note that the Guardian is a derivative of the JW press releases on the topic.

The article appeared in the print version of The Guardian on Friday 10 March 2017, as a strip along the bottom 1/4 of page 32 which is in the 'Journal' section of the newspaper rather than the 'News' section. Above the article was the 'Letters Section.'

The article was written by Giles Fraser in his regular opinion style 'Loose canon' column, so named because:

Dr Giles Fraser is priest-in-charge at St Mary's Newington in south London and the former canon chancellor of St Paul's Cathedral. He writes the Loose canon column for the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/profile/gilesfraser

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RC - Discussion on proposed Aust. Branch Child Abuse Policy Doc

by Listener in

from angus stewarts opening statement case study 54. this week watchtower australia furnished to the royal commission a document titled child safeguarding policy of jehovah’s witnesses in australia.

it is understood to be a recently adopted policy for distribution to congregations in australia.

there will be evidence about this document.

darkspilver

The Child Safeguarding Policy is available to anyone - both publishers within the congregation and the public - 'on request.'

It would appear that when you get called on by JWs in either the UK or the Rep of Ireland, you should be able to ask them to get you a copy to read.

CHILD SAFEGUARDING POLICY of JWs in the UK and the RoI

Point 22: This Policy will be made available upon request to members of the congregation.

Letter January 1, 2017 - Re: Handling Matters Relating to Alleged Child Abuse

From time to time, organizations and others ask to see our Policy for handling matters relating to child abuse. Of course, our comprehensive and long-standing policy has been set out in various publications over the years. However, to help answer such enquiries, we have a Child Safeguarding Policy. The policy has been recently revised.
The Child Safeguarding Policy summarizes key Scriptural and theocratic principles for the protection of children. The policy includes the articles listed on page 6. Once you have entered the telephone numbers on page 6 of the Child Safeguarding Policy document, it should be printed. The articles listed in the “Notes” section are part of this document and should also be printed. Place the policy and the articles in a folder of its own, and then keep it in the congregation file. As stated on page 5: “This Policy will be made available upon request to members of the congregation.”

Of course you could also get a copy of the Child Safeguarding Policy from your local AmDram Society, Youth Group/Sports Group and compare them.

darkspilver

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CUBA: JW minor beaten by several policemen in Morón, complains his father

UPDATE - USA: Boy says school-bus driver told him he and his moms are going to hell